[Dialogue] The Grand Design

[John Cock]

Rather delicious trialog, Paul. Thanks. I was delighted to hear Dawkins say
he was an agnostic, not an atheist, to the laughter of many. Whatever he is,
he has been thinking it all through seriously. Williams was definitive but
open. The moderator, a philosopher, was less open.

I watched and listened as I watched my Braves beat the Rays. That too was
delicious as our first closer came in in the 8th inning, Braves ahead 2-0,
with two Rays outs, then proceeded to hit the next two batters, loading the
bases, followed by the next batter hitting a blistering grounder that hit a
Rays runners and ended the 8th inning--and of course our closer finished off
the 9th inning as always, remarkably, leaving the Braves in first place. 

Do inform us again, Paul, when they next debate, when they hopefully get to
the heart of the matter of the evolution of the Earth community to deal with
its future, and not just depend on Darwinian evolution and Godly
intervention.

John

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I enjoyed the debate between Richard Dawkins and Rowan Williams on some of
these questions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfQk4NfW7g0
 
Maybe it adds another dimension...?
 
Paul
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 20/05/2012 19:18:12 GMT Daylight Time, LAURELCG at aol.com
writes:

	
	Jack,
	 
	The Ground of Being that WAS before the big bang, and the
Evolutionary Impulse (Becoming) that started the big bang, is what we've
called God. (This I've gleaned from Andrew Cohen.) I agree it is all
intelligent, but our tiny brains cannot begin to understand it. IT is the
All, in the phrases, "All that is, is good." and "I am One with All That
Is." Science is about grappling to understand it. Good scientists are
usually in awe of what they're discovering. What else would keep someone
looking in a microscope all day every day for years, or whatever laborious
process is required in their discipline? Scientists like Bryan Swimme and
men of faith like Thomas Berry sometimes collaborate to come up with
inspired works, like The Universe Story. This is all just my humble opinion,
as is the belief that the church, the cutting edge today, is the
evolutionary spirituality movement. Jean Houston is a recognized leader of
it and almost invariably ends her internet sessions with "These are the
times, we are the people."
	 
	From the great central valley of California, the center of the
Universe,
	Jann  
	 
	In a message dated 5/20/2012 10:57:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
icabombay at igc.org writes:

		As to the "Grand Design", it is the contention of some that
the creative process, that which underlies all, is inherently intelligent
and that intelligence can be understood.



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