[Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer

[William Schlesinger]

Guess our eschatalogical hero got it wrong!  Should have put Pontius Pilate
away!

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Calls to mind the phrase out of the Patton monologue, "Your job is not to
> die for your country..."
>
> "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the
> world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."
> -Martin Buber (adapted)
>    *From:* William Schlesinger <pvida3607 at gmail.com>
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer
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> Of course, sometimes the coming generation needs to see people going down
> fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat!  Or at least, taking
> the hit of what seems like certain defeat, and disclosing that certain
> defeat isn't all it's cracked up to be...
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Terry Bergdall <bergdall2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> "To talk of going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat
> is not really heroic at all, but merely a refusal to face the future. The
> ultimate question for a responsible man to ask is not how he is to
> extricate himself heroically from the affair, but how the coming generation
> is to live."
>
> I believe this is from "After Ten Years" in Letters and Papers from
> Prison. Terry
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, George Holcombe <geowanda at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> What was that quote from Bonhoeffer a few days ago about lost causes, or
> going down with the ship, something like that.  I was trying to look it up
> and couldn't find it.
>
>   George Holcombe
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> Hope appeareth, but it is not your Hope—you do not have anything to do
> with it. It just appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it
> just appeareth! You do not even know why you hope. How in the world could
> you hope when there is absolutely nothing to justify any hope?    ~Joseph
> W. Mathews
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