Jim, Thank you for resurrecting Joe’s paper. Joe’s paper captures the essence of conclusions from over 70+ years of scholarly work on the New Testament and the historical Jesus. The popular assumption is and has been that the faith and teaching of the church are rooted in the faith and teaching of Jesus. This idea, however, proves completely unfounded when you check the data. The truth is that there is a dichotomy between Jesus and the church. While the church may name Jesus as its founder, what it preaches and what Jesus had to say are very different. The ‘Jesus Sayings Traditions’ were quickly eclipsed in favor of the church’s power game based on the Christ happening, death and resurrection and exaltation as abstracted doctrines. Rod R