Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Grows?
Folks, we ALL need to be technically "woke" and understand that spammers are entirely able and willing to fake the return addresses of emails they send. This is a huge industry. This happens A LOT. You simply can't assume that an email is really from who it appears to be from. They are hoping you will respond and relax your guard because you think you know the sender. As manager of the mailing lists, I can't tell you how many times the entire contact lists of our members have been stolen, and spammers have begun to post to the lists with faked return addresses.. Many times I have had to mark a member as requiring my moderation so that the spammer's posts don't get through. Usually the spam dies down after a few weeks and I can clear the moderation flag. Of course I don't know if the email Seth refers to was faked or not, since I haven't seen it. It's usually pretty obvious. I generally consider this kind of "meta talk" about email, security, etc to be off topic, but since this has come up, I thought I should respond. Tim On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM Seth Longacre via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Well, the part that was disrespectful and potentially dangerous is definitely something an older “un woke” person could be oblivious about. But the email is the one you and Wendell mentioned, so this is making me think it was quite legitimate.
Thank you.
Seth T. Longacre Carlsbad, CA
*"No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices” Edward R. Murrow*
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On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:06 , David Dunn via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Hi all.
Out of the blue, Bill called me last week to visit. He said he hadn’t heard from us for a while and said he wanted to check to see that Burna and I are well. We had a pleasing conversation and I made a note to myself to be more communicative.
The directory shows Bill’s and Nan’s emails as billgrow@verizon.net and nangrow@verizon.net.
Anything disrespectful, let alone dangerous, sounds way out of character to me.
Bill was Bill when we talked last week.
David
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Seth Longacre via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Is anyone in contact with Bill & Nan Grow? Are they on either of these email lists?
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I am pretty fairly convinced that this was NOT spam. They searched the Internet to find the current church where I am serving and sent an email to the administrator there. That’s a lot more work than a spammer would do. They also referenced information that a spammer would be unlikely to know (and the administrator didn’t know, which is the part where it could have been potentially dangerous to me). My comment about woke-ness was NOT about spam but rather about them misgendering and misnaming me in a public way that outed me without my consent or even knoweldge. Seth T. Longacre Carlsbad, CA "No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices” Edward R. Murrow ———-O0ooo— ———–(——)— ————)–-/—- ————(_/- —-ooo0O—- —-(——)—- —–\-–(– ——\_)-
On Oct 3, 2019, at 14:40 , Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Folks, we ALL need to be technically "woke" and understand that spammers are entirely able and willing to fake the return addresses of emails they send. This is a huge industry. This happens A LOT. You simply can't assume that an email is really from who it appears to be from. They are hoping you will respond and relax your guard because you think you know the sender. As manager of the mailing lists, I can't tell you how many times the entire contact lists of our members have been stolen, and spammers have begun to post to the lists with faked return addresses.. Many times I have had to mark a member as requiring my moderation so that the spammer's posts don't get through. Usually the spam dies down after a few weeks and I can clear the moderation flag.
Of course I don't know if the email Seth refers to was faked or not, since I haven't seen it. It's usually pretty obvious.
I generally consider this kind of "meta talk" about email, security, etc to be off topic, but since this has come up, I thought I should respond.
Tim
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM Seth Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: Well, the part that was disrespectful and potentially dangerous is definitely something an older “un woke” person could be oblivious about. But the email is the one you and Wendell mentioned, so this is making me think it was quite legitimate.
Thank you.
Seth T. Longacre Carlsbad, CA
"No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices” Edward R. Murrow
———-O0ooo— ———–(——)— ————)–-/—- ————(_/- —-ooo0O—- —-(——)—- —–\-–(– ——\_)-
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:06 , David Dunn via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Hi all.
Out of the blue, Bill called me last week to visit. He said he hadn’t heard from us for a while and said he wanted to check to see that Burna and I are well. We had a pleasing conversation and I made a note to myself to be more communicative.
The directory shows Bill’s and Nan’s emails as billgrow@verizon.net <mailto:billgrow@verizon.net> and nangrow@verizon.net <mailto:nangrow@verizon.net>.
Anything disrespectful, let alone dangerous, sounds way out of character to me.
Bill was Bill when we talked last week.
David
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Seth Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Is anyone in contact with Bill & Nan Grow? Are they on either of these email lists?
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"Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose"
David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com <mailto:dmdunn1@gmail.com>
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Thank you, Tim for all you do! Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Timothy Wegner via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Folks, we ALL need to be technically "woke" and understand that spammers are entirely able and willing to fake the return addresses of emails they send. This is a huge industry. This happens A LOT. You simply can't assume that an email is really from who it appears to be from. They are hoping you will respond and relax your guard because you think you know the sender. As manager of the mailing lists, I can't tell you how many times the entire contact lists of our members have been stolen, and spammers have begun to post to the lists with faked return addresses.. Many times I have had to mark a member as requiring my moderation so that the spammer's posts don't get through. Usually the spam dies down after a few weeks and I can clear the moderation flag.
Of course I don't know if the email Seth refers to was faked or not, since I haven't seen it. It's usually pretty obvious.
I generally consider this kind of "meta talk" about email, security, etc to be off topic, but since this has come up, I thought I should respond.
Tim
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM Seth Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Well, the part that was disrespectful and potentially dangerous is definitely something an older “un woke” person could be oblivious about. But the email is the one you and Wendell mentioned, so this is making me think it was quite legitimate.
Thank you.
Seth T. Longacre Carlsbad, CA
"No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices” Edward R. Murrow
———-O0ooo— ———–(——)— ————)–-/—- ————(_/- —-ooo0O—- —-(——)—- —–\-–(– ——\_)-
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:06 , David Dunn via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Hi all.
Out of the blue, Bill called me last week to visit. He said he hadn’t heard from us for a while and said he wanted to check to see that Burna and I are well. We had a pleasing conversation and I made a note to myself to be more communicative.
The directory shows Bill’s and Nan’s emails as billgrow@verizon.net and nangrow@verizon.net.
Anything disrespectful, let alone dangerous, sounds way out of character to me.
Bill was Bill when we talked last week.
David
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Seth Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Is anyone in contact with Bill & Nan Grow? Are they on either of these email lists?
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"Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose"
David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com
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Sent from my iPhone
On 04-Oct-2019, at 4:39 AM, Elizabeth Caperton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thank you, Tim for all you do!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 3, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Timothy Wegner via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Folks, we ALL need to be technically "woke" and understand that spammers are entirely able and willing to fake the return addresses of emails they send. This is a huge industry. This happens A LOT. You simply can't assume that an email is really from who it appears to be from. They are hoping you will respond and relax your guard because you think you know the sender. As manager of the mailing lists, I can't tell you how many times the entire contact lists of our members have been stolen, and spammers have begun to post to the lists with faked return addresses.. Many times I have had to mark a member as requiring my moderation so that the spammer's posts don't get through. Usually the spam dies down after a few weeks and I can clear the moderation flag.
Of course I don't know if the email Seth refers to was faked or not, since I haven't seen it. It's usually pretty obvious.
I generally consider this kind of "meta talk" about email, security, etc to be off topic, but since this has come up, I thought I should respond.
Tim
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM Seth Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Well, the part that was disrespectful and potentially dangerous is definitely something an older “un woke” person could be oblivious about. But the email is the one you and Wendell mentioned, so this is making me think it was quite legitimate.
Thank you.
Seth T. Longacre Carlsbad, CA
"No one man can terrorize a whole nation unless we are all his accomplices” Edward R. Murrow
———-O0ooo— ———–(——)— ————)–-/—- ————(_/- —-ooo0O—- —-(——)—- —–\-–(– ——\_)-
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:06 , David Dunn via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Hi all.
Out of the blue, Bill called me last week to visit. He said he hadn’t heard from us for a while and said he wanted to check to see that Burna and I are well. We had a pleasing conversation and I made a note to myself to be more communicative.
The directory shows Bill’s and Nan’s emails as billgrow@verizon.net and nangrow@verizon.net.
Anything disrespectful, let alone dangerous, sounds way out of character to me.
Bill was Bill when we talked last week.
David
On Oct 2, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Seth Longacre via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Is anyone in contact with Bill & Nan Grow? Are they on either of these email lists?
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<DMD email sig photo small-Nov2012.jpg>
"Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose"
David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com
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