I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it. Have at it. Lee Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155 Phone: (425)212-7997 lees.mail@comcast.net
MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen: Our country is injured - take a knee!! Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now." I asked him to explain his train of thought. "My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie. Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on." Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway
On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it.
<Glad you asked.docx>
Have at it.
Lee
Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155
Phone: (425)212-7997 lees.mail@comcast.net
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On respecting the flag of the United States: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1 [https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/09/24/Editorial-Opinion/Images/853068846.jpg?t=20170517]<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1> Opinion | This is what the flag stands for, Mr. President<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1> www.washingtonpost.com Free expression, not coerced conformity. ________________________________ From: OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 9:54:48 AM To: Lee Early; Order Ecumenical Community Cc: ICA Dialogue Dialogue Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] You a sports fan? More to Lee's reflections MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen: Our country is injured - take a knee!! Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now." I asked him to explain his train of thought. "My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie. Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on." Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353<x-apple-data-detectors://0> Tel. 011-623-936-8671<tel:011-623-936-8671> or 011-623-363-3277<tel:011-623-363-3277> jfwiegel@yahoo..com<mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.partnersinparticipation.com%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cdm14%40txstate.edu%7C1f8b6228fc8047a0557608d504256368%7Cb19c134a14c94d4caf65c420f94c8cbb%7C0&sdata=RKrrmc6lK8ix6pSPziVY%2F3Neu%2FI6vpdd4gOzurC0%2B%2Bw%3D&reserved=0> We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it. <Glad you asked.docx> Have at it. Lee Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155 Phone: (425)212-7997 lees.mail@comcast.net<mailto:lees.mail@comcast.net> _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.wedgeblade.net%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Foe-wedgeblade.net&data=01%7C01%7Cdm14%40txstate.edu%7C1f8b6228fc8047a0557608d504256368%7Cb19c134a14c94d4caf65c420f94c8cbb%7C0&sdata=zWPck6hu6%2FmhzBGH3IBBNR5Hbd15qoYbvHgGyKMaDM0%3D&reserved=0>
Oh my! What conversation this one is becoming! Here is a poem that I read and saved some years ago. It comes to me as appropriate to this conversation. KNEELING DOWN A desire to kneel down sometimes pulses through my body or rather, it is as if my body has been meant and made for the act of kneeling. Sometimes, in moments of deep gratitude, kneeling own becomes an overwhelming urge, head deeply bowed, hands before my face. Etty Hillesum "An Interrupted Life" With love and gratitude, Nancy On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:57 AM, McCabe, Diann A via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
On respecting the flag of the United States: https://www.washingtonpost. com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/ 2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html? undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1> Opinion | This is what the flag stands for, Mr. President <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1> www.washingtonpost.com Free expression, not coerced conformity.
------------------------------ *From:* OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 9:54:48 AM *To:* Lee Early; Order Ecumenical Community *Cc:* ICA Dialogue Dialogue *Subject:* Re: [Oe List ...] You a sports fan? More to Lee's reflections
MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen:
Our country is injured - take a knee!!
Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now."
I asked him to explain his train of thought.
"My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie.
Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on."
Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo..com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.partnersinparticipation.com%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cdm14%40txstate.edu%7C1f8b6228fc8047a0557608d504256368%7Cb19c134a14c94d4caf65c420f94c8cbb%7C0&sdata=RKrrmc6lK8ix6pSPziVY%2F3Neu%2FI6vpdd4gOzurC0%2B%2Bw%3D&reserved=0>
We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway
On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it.
<Glad you asked.docx>
Have at it.
Lee
Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155
Phone: (425)212-7997 <(425)%20212-7997> lees.mail@comcast.net
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The expression I've been most impressed with is guy who took a knee while at the same time holding his cap over his heart. To me he was saying he loves his country but is not oblivious to its deep flaws. Randy On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Nancy Lanphear via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Oh my! What conversation this one is becoming! Here is a poem that I read and saved some years ago. It comes to me as appropriate to this conversation.
KNEELING DOWN
A desire to kneel down sometimes pulses through my body or rather, it is as if my body has been meant and made for the act of kneeling. Sometimes, in moments of deep gratitude, kneeling own becomes an overwhelming urge, head deeply bowed, hands before my face.
Etty Hillesum "An Interrupted Life"
With love and gratitude,
Nancy
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:57 AM, McCabe, Diann A via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
On respecting the flag of the United States: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-fla g-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f -f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a& wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1> Opinion | This is what the flag stands for, Mr. President <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-what-the-flag-stands-for-mr-president/2017/09/24/34be7726-a130-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.6957a521803a&wpisrc=nl_headlines&wpmm=1> www.washingtonpost.com Free expression, not coerced conformity.
------------------------------ *From:* OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2017 9:54:48 AM *To:* Lee Early; Order Ecumenical Community *Cc:* ICA Dialogue Dialogue *Subject:* Re: [Oe List ...] You a sports fan? More to Lee's reflections
MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen:
Our country is injured - take a knee!!
Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now."
I asked him to explain his train of thought.
"My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie.
Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on."
Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo..com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.partnersinparticipation.com%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cdm14%40txstate.edu%7C1f8b6228fc8047a0557608d504256368%7Cb19c134a14c94d4caf65c420f94c8cbb%7C0&sdata=RKrrmc6lK8ix6pSPziVY%2F3Neu%2FI6vpdd4gOzurC0%2B%2Bw%3D&reserved=0>
We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway
On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it.
<Glad you asked.docx>
Have at it.
Lee
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Phone: (425)212-7997 <(425)%20212-7997> lees.mail@comcast.net
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-- *"Anything else you're interested in is not going to happen if you can't breathe the air and drink the water. Don't sit this one out. Do something."* *--Carl Sagan*
I don't know whose idea this was, but it has shut down the Russia conversation for a few hours. Doris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen:
Our country is injured - take a knee!!
Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now."
I asked him to explain his train of thought.
"My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie.
Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on."
Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo..com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com
We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway
On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it.
<Glad you asked.docx>
Have at it.
Lee
Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155
Phone: (425)212-7997 <(425)%20212-7997> lees.mail@comcast.net
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Ah, Doris, you are always on focus! Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com On Monday, September 25, 2017, 12:56:19 PM MST, Doris Hahn <dshahn31@gmail.com> wrote: I don't know whose idea this was, but it has shut down the Russia conversation for a few hours.Doris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen: Our country is injured - take a knee!! Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now." I asked him to explain his train of thought. "My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie. Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on." Jim Wiegel401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011- 623-363-3277jfwiegel@yahoo..comwww.partnersinparticipation. com We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it. <Glad you asked.docx> Have at it. Lee Lee Early19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155 Phone: (425)212-7997 lees.mail@comcast.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net ______________________________ _________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
Thank you. Doris, Jim, and Lee! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Doris Hahn via OE Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 2:56 PM To: James Wiegel; Order Ecumenical Community Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] You a sports fan? More to Lee's reflections I don't know whose idea this was, but it has shut down the Russia conversation for a few hours. Doris On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen: Our country is injured - take a knee!! Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now." I asked him to explain his train of thought. "My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie. Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on." Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo..com www.partnersinparticipation.com We are all apprentices in a craft where no one ever becomes a master. Ernest Hemingway On Sep 25, 2017, at 05:06, Lee Early via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I thought I could cut and paste this paper but, I’ll just attach it. Hope you can un-attach it and read it. <Glad you asked.docx> Have at it. Lee Lee Early 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE A-102 Lake Forest Park, WA 98155 Phone: (425)212-7997 lees.mail@comcast.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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