In Kenya, One Solution to Contaminated Water Comes From Above
https://undark.org/2024/08/13/kenya-clean-water-aerial-piping-system/ Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember. An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful! Celebrate. Lynda
The only two I recall are Kawangware and Kamelini. Maybe check with Kaye Hayes or the Packards. M.
On Aug 21, 2024, at 7:50 PM, Lynda C via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
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Yes, too long to remember details, but I do remember going there and teaching a Village leaders institute. We ate arrowroot and a concoction called kitheri. Judi On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 7:50 PM Lynda C via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
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Oops! Kibera is near Kawangare. Im thinking of a village with similar name. Love aging! On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 8:12 PM Judi White <judiwhite070@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, too long to remember details, but I do remember going there and teaching a Village leaders institute. We ate arrowroot and a concoction called kitheri. Judi
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Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
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I was actually in Bayad, Egypt, shortly after the Busses left, where Boivin drilled that well near the Nile.Sarah is slightly misremembering the name of the HDP.Kibera is south of Kawangware. It's primarily Luo (Obama's tribe), while Kawangware is primarily Kikuyu.Marshall On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 11:04:06 AM EDT, Sarah H. Buss via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: In Kawangware there were several sources: when we first arrived women carried it from the canals. Then the men put on waders and carried it from Nile for us to put iodine in so we could use it for drinking and bathing; then Cairo patrons gave us $100. to buy a drilling bit I think it was. Wayne Nelson, Gene Boivin and village men choose a spot about 200 feet from the Nile to begin drilling by hand to get fresh water. It wasn’t very deep but it was clean. A hand pump was installed so villagers and ourselves then had clean water. Did I get that right? I am sure that you, Jo Nelson, have a better memory than I, so please elaborate and correct me if necessary. Sarah BussSent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2024, at 7:22 PM, Judi White via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Oops! Kibera is near Kawangare. Im thinking of a village with similar name. Love aging! On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 8:12 PM Judi White <judiwhite070@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, too long to remember details, but I do remember going there and teaching a Village leaders institute. We ate arrowroot and a concoction called kitheri. Judi On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 7:50 PM Lynda C via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: https://undark.org/2024/08/13/kenya-clean-water-aerial-piping-system/ Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember. An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful! Celebrate. Lynda _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
And Kibera was not a project site - it is a neighborhood within the city of Nairobi. The Kawangware HDP was another neighborhood within the city of Nairobi. Kamwelani was the first expansion to a village project - south of Nairobi. There was a water purification effort in Kamwelani - I vividly remember a flash flood that almost drowned some of the villagers and our staff members who were imbedding PVC piping into the sandy bottom of a river bed. Geri On Aug 22, 2024, at 12:04 PM, W. J. via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I was actually in Bayad, Egypt, shortly after the Busses left, where Boivin drilled that well near the Nile. Sarah is slightly misremembering the name of the HDP. Kibera is south of Kawangware. It's primarily Luo (Obama's tribe), while Kawangware is primarily Kikuyu. Marshall On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 11:04:06 AM EDT, Sarah H. Buss via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: In Kawangware there were several sources: when we first arrived women carried it from the canals. Then the men put on waders and carried it from Nile for us to put iodine in so we could use it for drinking and bathing; then Cairo patrons gave us $100. to buy a drilling bit I think it was. Wayne Nelson, Gene Boivin and village men choose a spot about 200 feet from the Nile to begin drilling by hand to get fresh water. It wasn’t very deep but it was clean. A hand pump was installed so villagers and ourselves then had clean water. Did I get that right? I am sure that you, Jo Nelson, have a better memory than I, so please elaborate and correct me if necessary. Sarah Buss Sent from my iPhone
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Oops! Kibera is near Kawangare. Im thinking of a village with similar name. Love aging!
On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 8:12 PM Judi White <judiwhite070@gmail.com <mailto:judiwhite070@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes, too long to remember details, but I do remember going there and teaching a Village leaders institute. We ate arrowroot and a concoction called kitheri. Judi
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Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
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Yes, Kawangware is a lot of Kikuyus with Somalians and other tribes sprinkled in. I have a hard time believing that 250,000 people in Kibera are all Luos. There are Luo communities in Nairobi but are small. But I was there, what 1980 to 1986, and things could have changed a lot, although I visited Kawangware in 2023. Dick On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 11:09 AM W. J. via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I was actually in Bayad, Egypt, shortly after the Busses left, where Boivin drilled that well near the Nile. Sarah is slightly misremembering the name of the HDP. Kibera is south of Kawangware. It's primarily Luo (Obama's tribe), while Kawangware is primarily Kikuyu. Marshall On Thursday, August 22, 2024 at 11:04:06 AM EDT, Sarah H. Buss via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
In Kawangware there were several sources: when we first arrived women carried it from the canals. Then the men put on waders and carried it from Nile for us to put iodine in so we could use it for drinking and bathing; then Cairo patrons gave us $100. to buy a drilling bit I think it was. Wayne Nelson, Gene Boivin and village men choose a spot about 200 feet from the Nile to begin drilling by hand to get fresh water. It wasn’t very deep but it was clean. A hand pump was installed so villagers and ourselves then had clean water. Did I get that right? I am sure that you, Jo Nelson, have a better memory than I, so please elaborate and correct me if necessary. Sarah Buss Sent from my iPhone
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Oops! Kibera is near Kawangare. Im thinking of a village with similar name. Love aging!
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Yes, too long to remember details, but I do remember going there and teaching a Village leaders institute. We ate arrowroot and a concoction called kitheri. Judi
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Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
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Sarah, You said this was Kawangare, but the description that follows looks like El Bayad, Egypt. The health issue was Bilharzia. It is a parasite that enters the skin from water while farmers worked. It was a major problem. Clean drinking water was the target. Ken and I were there for the Health Trek. A well had successfully been dug. But we had to get water from the well to the village, some distance away. Trenches were dug so that water could be carried to each of 5 taps in the village. The earth was hard and tough. We and others labored. Then one eventing, some villagers who were smarter than we were, had carried water from the Nile to soften the trench earth. It made digging out the trench so much easier that new day! Jo Nelson is definitely the one to weigh in with memory and accuracy on this one! Ruth
On Aug 22, 2024, at 8:03 AM, Sarah H. Buss via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
In Kawangware there were several sources: when we first arrived women carried it from the canals. Then the men put on waders and carried it from Nile for us to put iodine in so we could use it for drinking and bathing; then Cairo patrons gave us $100. to buy a drilling bit I think it was. Wayne Nelson, Gene Boivin and village men choose a spot about 200 feet from the Nile to begin drilling by hand to get fresh water. It wasn’t very deep but it was clean. A hand pump was installed so villagers and ourselves then had clean water. Did I get that right? I am sure that you, Jo Nelson, have a better memory than I, so please elaborate and correct me if necessary. Sarah Buss Sent from my iPhone
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Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
Lynda
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Thanks. I stand corrected. Sent from my iPhone
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Wasnt there a Kabiro — a part of Kawngware ?? Jim Wiegel “…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“. The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
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Yes, Kabiro was were the Clinic and School was located, but part of Kawangware- like half a mile away. Dick On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 9:54 AM James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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“…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“.
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Yes, Jim, I think "Kabiro" was also a subsection or node within Kawangware. Where the community library and the preschool are/were located, I think.Check the narration in 'The World of Human Development.'Marshall On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 10:54:39 AM EDT, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Wasnt there a Kabiro — a part of Kawngware ?? Jim Wiegel “…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“. The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver On Aug 23, 2024, at 11:05 AM, Sarah Buss via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Thanks. I stand corrected. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2024, at 8:38 AM, Ruth Gilbert <ruthhgilbert@gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
No, ICA was in Kwangware- is the oldest slum area. Kibera is a much newer slum area. Dick On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 6:50 PM Lynda C via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
https://undark.org/2024/08/13/kenya-clean-water-aerial-piping-system/
Was there an ICA project by this named Kibera out side Nairobi? The spelling is a bit different than I remember.
An article from Reasons to Be Cheerful!
Celebrate.
Lynda _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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