Re: [Oe List ...] ICA group on a path forward
Now the Path Forward begins with Bill taking the first giant step (for humankind!!!) and Jim Weigel so brilliantly articulating where we are now after Rog Work's MOM raises the pertinent questions. Standing on the shoulders of the incredible Global Archives held by Karen Snyder Troxel. Welcome to beginning anew. Bowing in gratitude. 💙💛 On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 11:07 PM James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Thanks for responding, Rob. And to Judy for connecting with you And anyone else listening, especially the folks who have gotten together on zoom the last 3 saturdays.
A couple of weeks ago, Bill Parker, who has been working on (help me if I use the wrong words) forming a human community network in Oklahoma to address human suffering there, sent an email around wondering if it was time for us to talk about “a path forward”. Several of us responded. Bill is looking for wisdom on how to move forward with his next step of connecting social networks across 24 regions in Oklahoma (which he also thinks might be appropriate and perhaps replicable in other places. I recalled work you have done with the “movement of movements” approach and thought that might be helpful
However, it seems to me that In our group that has to do with a path forward, we are asking several different questions at this point based on our unique existential situations. Here is my impression, please add and/or correct. There is no organizational connection to ICA or any other organization
1. Bill Parker’s question. How do we weave the networks that are building the new society together with a deeper sense of commonality and therefore more effectiveness 2. Wanda‘ Holcombe’s question how do I stay in touch and float with the brand new and how does the global become our local through the internet 3. Judi White’s question how do I survive as a Shapeshifter? 4. Susan erickson. How do I stay up on what’s happening and know what to do day by day 5. Don Bushman’s question what wisdom do we have to offer in this moment? 6. Several of us are asking what does it mean to be our age and phase and not some other? 7. Karen Snyder Troxel wondered about being a shape shifter as she is coming up with different ideas each week 8. Judy Wiegel sees this as an exciting time to be alive and i missed her question 9. Michael and Molly Shaw were asking what does a church have to show for it? And where do we locate? 10. Richard Maguire wasn’t really asking. He was showing a pathway of collaboration that he and Maria are working with. That’s very interesting. 11. Milan and Linda Hamilton have contributed stories and energy around their work in Redlands with their ANCA approach Accelerating Neighborhood Climate Action which is built on work that Sunny Walker and others have been working on in Colorado 12. I guess my question was what is my local human development project and 13. Wanda and some are asking How is the Internet and all that access how is that the new local 14. Jean Watts was on but i missed what she said due to a “comfort break” 15. Who have i missed? 16. which got me thinking about Bill‘s question at the end about being more disciplined and moving things forward and it occurred to me that for the most part interaction over the Internet comes first of all as Listening to someone next it comes asl looking at faces on a screen and Serial talking and when we say what about our methods, we have to realize that neither one of those things actually produces transparency or creates a trans establishment — or has much to do with what we used to do that we called our methods
Jim Wiegel
“…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“.
The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
On Mar 9, 2025, at 11:18 AM, Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com> wrote:
Dear Jim,
Hope all is well.
Judi White wrote to me asking if I would join the Zoom meeting this coming Saturday for the ICA group on a path forward. She also mentioned that you said to the group that I should participate and speak this Saturday.
How is the discussion going? What is your vision of what can emerge? What does the group need to hear?
Best wishes in this time of transformation,
Rob
Robertson Work Books and bio <https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF> Essays on Substack <https://robertsonwork.substack.com/> Videos and articles <https://www.globalcompassioncoalition.org/author/robertson-work/> Interviews and poetry <https://www.globalheart2heart.com/a-compassionate-civilization-creating-a-new-future-now/?fbclid=IwAR2EAy4c64wCRzlzUCzVKXokqce3hePofFvzdzvCM5aDYRb9QgdFyQPUyxU>
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Good to hear from you, Jim. Thanks for sharing some of your notes on what colleagues are doing. I am grateful for this ongoing conversation and impressed with what colleagues are engaged in and asking, including the efforts in my home state of Oklahoma that Bill and Mark and others are facilitating. It is good to see that we are focused on the present and the future not just on the past. Some of you might find interesting this recent piece on the MOM: https://robertsonwork.substack.com/p/the-movement-of-movements-mom-dancing These are indeed challenging times for each of us as an Earthling, an American, and an elder. How can we each help create islands of sanity to catalyze beloved community? How can we each care for our body-mind so that despair does not stop us from taking compassionate actions in the here and in the now? Your colleague in transformation, Rob Robertson Work Books and bio<https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF> Essays on Substack<https://robertsonwork.substack.com/> Videos and articles<https://www.globalcompassioncoalition.org/author/robertson-work/> Interviews and poetry<https://www.globalheart2heart.com/a-compassionate-civilization-creating-a-new-future-now/?fbclid=IwAR2EAy4c64wCRzlzUCzVKXokqce3hePofFvzdzvCM5aDYRb9QgdFyQPUyxU> ________________________________ From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2025 11:04 PM To: Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com>; Listserve OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Colleague Dialogue <Dialogue@wedgeblade.net> Cc: Sister Judy Wiegel <juneweaver2018@gmail.com>; Ken and Ruth Gilbert <ruthhgilbert@gmail.com>; Wanda Holcombe <wandah70@gmail.com>; Molly Shaw <molly.shaw@comcast.net>; Karen! Snyder <karen.snyder10@gmail.com>; Don Bushman <onedonbushman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ICA group on a path forward Thanks for responding, Rob. And to Judy for connecting with you And anyone else listening, especially the folks who have gotten together on zoom the last 3 saturdays. A couple of weeks ago, Bill Parker, who has been working on (help me if I use the wrong words) forming a human community network in Oklahoma to address human suffering there, sent an email around wondering if it was time for us to talk about “a path forward”. Several of us responded. Bill is looking for wisdom on how to move forward with his next step of connecting social networks across 24 regions in Oklahoma (which he also thinks might be appropriate and perhaps replicable in other places. I recalled work you have done with the “movement of movements” approach and thought that might be helpful However, it seems to me that In our group that has to do with a path forward, we are asking several different questions at this point based on our unique existential situations. Here is my impression, please add and/or correct. There is no organizational connection to ICA or any other organization 1. Bill Parker’s question. How do we weave the networks that are building the new society together with a deeper sense of commonality and therefore more effectiveness 2. Wanda‘ Holcombe’s question how do I stay in touch and float with the brand new and how does the global become our local through the internet 3. Judi White’s question how do I survive as a Shapeshifter? 4. Susan erickson. How do I stay up on what’s happening and know what to do day by day 5. Don Bushman’s question what wisdom do we have to offer in this moment? 6. Several of us are asking what does it mean to be our age and phase and not some other? 7. Karen Snyder Troxel wondered about being a shape shifter as she is coming up with different ideas each week 8. Judy Wiegel sees this as an exciting time to be alive and i missed her question 9. Michael and Molly Shaw were asking what does a church have to show for it? And where do we locate? 10. Richard Maguire wasn’t really asking. He was showing a pathway of collaboration that he and Maria are working with. That’s very interesting. 11. Milan and Linda Hamilton have contributed stories and energy around their work in Redlands with their ANCA approach Accelerating Neighborhood Climate Action which is built on work that Sunny Walker and others have been working on in Colorado 12. I guess my question was what is my local human development project and 13. Wanda and some are asking How is the Internet and all that access how is that the new local 14. Jean Watts was on but i missed what she said due to a “comfort break” 15. Who have i missed? 16. which got me thinking about Bill‘s question at the end about being more disciplined and moving things forward and it occurred to me that for the most part interaction over the Internet comes first of all as Listening to someone next it comes asl looking at faces on a screen and Serial talking and when we say what about our methods, we have to realize that neither one of those things actually produces transparency or creates a trans establishment — or has much to do with what we used to do that we called our methods Jim Wiegel “…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“. The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver On Mar 9, 2025, at 11:18 AM, Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com> wrote: Dear Jim, Hope all is well. Judi White wrote to me asking if I would join the Zoom meeting this coming Saturday for the ICA group on a path forward. She also mentioned that you said to the group that I should participate and speak this Saturday. How is the discussion going? What is your vision of what can emerge? What does the group need to hear? Best wishes in this time of transformation, Rob Robertson Work Books and bio<https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF> Essays on Substack<https://robertsonwork.substack.com/> Videos and articles<https://www.globalcompassioncoalition.org/author/robertson-work/> Interviews and poetry<https://www.globalheart2heart.com/a-compassionate-civilization-creating-a-new-future-now/?fbclid=IwAR2EAy4c64wCRzlzUCzVKXokqce3hePofFvzdzvCM5aDYRb9QgdFyQPUyxU>
Thank you, Wanda, for sharing this powerful piece full of wisdom and challenges of transformation. Robertson Work Books and bio<https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF> Essays on Substack<https://robertsonwork.substack.com/> Videos and articles<https://www.globalcompassioncoalition.org/author/robertson-work/> Interviews and poetry<https://www.globalheart2heart.com/a-compassionate-civilization-creating-a-new-future-now/?fbclid=IwAR2EAy4c64wCRzlzUCzVKXokqce3hePofFvzdzvCM5aDYRb9QgdFyQPUyxU> ________________________________ From: Holcombe Wanda <wandah70@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2025 7:28 PM To: Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com> Cc: James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>; Listserve OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@wedgeblade.net>; Sister Judy Wiegel <juneweaver2018@gmail.com>; Ken and Ruth Gilbert <ruthhgilbert@gmail.com>; Molly Shaw <molly.shaw@comcast.net>; Karen! Snyder <karen.snyder10@gmail.com>; Don Bushman <onedonbushman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ICA group on a path forward Thanks Jim for your helpful sharing info for both Rob and all of us who have been on a few of the Zooms for “A Path Forward”. As a response to Rob’s email of inquiry as to why I and others suggested he join in our Zoom to share his wisdom as we work together to respond to “On A Path Forward” MY response: I joined this Zoom Group because from the beginning of being a part of this community, I felt it was the people who might want to work together and trusted to have similar passions to care for ALL for the “Future” I was very impressed to hear about all the great things folks were involved in and creating in their local community and other places too. I too am very involved in Caring for ALL in my 55+ Community (of 130 payments) and other other Grouos who have similar missions expressed in various ways. BUT, I am also very concerned for the future to think “outside the box” or Revolutionary wise with “others” to be part of the New Story like we have always been. So I put my thoughts together today to try and share where the Ground of my Being is calling out to help Create the STORY for the future to live by and call others to live by and be part of the Revolution for the FuTURE…. Wanda On Behalf of the Future wandah70@gmail.com 512-619-3469 UNIVERSAL WORD ABOUT LIFE * ALL Is Possible * All Treated as “First Class” * All have FREE WILL to ACT * WE Act as Global Citizens * We Think Locally WE CARE for ALL as Global/Local Citizens (My 28 year old granddaughter wants to be a “Global/Local Citizen and shared with me last week as we celebrated her birthday as she prepared to fly to New York to live for six months….she said: You prepared me to care for all and live in the world 🌎 🌏🌎 but my life will not be like yours because I donnot want to be tied down to a house or piece of property, but I want to be able to live anywhere in the world and maybe I will and maybe I won’t ever get married or have children. I want to be part of the New World emerging and help to create it with my life🌠 As I celebrate my 85th birthday on May 5th Cinco de Mayo day, I want to live to be 100 or whatever it takes to live on Mars and help create the NEW HUMAN * “ from the ooze”, we emerged as the New Human with the Power of Free Will to create” the New Human (Loren Isley) * Spirit Powers that emerged were mostly a Man & the Woman (who was usually a Servant) and a common story in various forms was the Chicken Little Story: “Look out..the Sky is Falling” * Scientists and my Labor Delivery Nurse Daughter shared with me that when the Egg of a Human Female is Pregnated with a Male cell it first starts as a Female and then the male cell is added and at birth a new Human is Born, but sometimes the new human (in Baby) form is birthed with BOTH female & male sex organs. Plus in the past it was usually decided at delivery by the doctor as to which sex organ to remove and most times it was the Male genital that was left to remain in the Baby. * A Scientist in Dallas in the 1990’s revealed the research going on in the lab of how the sexual reality in the NewHuman may have both Male & Felmale organs and the power to pregnant itself like some species already do. * As each Humanoid developed in some form of “Life” & community it sometimes disappeared 🌠 * Riane Eisler…. writes about the Day of the Woman where she was the Leader of the Human community and the Life Force is passed on via the Woman as lived out and shared in stories by some Aboriginal stories and other religion stories. TODAY: Women from around the WORLD are meeting in Dubai and encouraging forming new Global Relations and Partnerships across the Globe Some stories are being told that it is time for both men and women to decide to live Compassionately: .as equal partners in the Universe .as Global Citizens .as Local Participants .as Each Connected in Creating the FUTURE Together In the Present: On Behalf of ALL as a Galactic Citizen & a New HUMAN May we All live in Compassionate Oneness with the Free Will to continue to Create the NEW FUTURE while living in the UNKNOWNESS OVER the ABYSS As symbols of my emerging thought, I have hanging in each of my Windows a Crystal to receive the Light & the Darkness to remind me of the Reality that WE ARE ALL CONNECTED🌠 Thoughts of Wanda Holcombe March 10, 2025 [IMG_5712] Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2025, at 1:45 PM, Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com> wrote: Good to hear from you, Jim. Thanks for sharing some of your notes on what colleagues are doing. I am grateful for this ongoing conversation and impressed with what colleagues are engaged in and asking, including the efforts in my home state of Oklahoma that Bill and Mark and others are facilitating. It is good to see that we are focused on the present and the future not just on the past. Some of you might find interesting this recent piece on the MOM: https://robertsonwork.substack.com/p/the-movement-of-movements-mom-dancing These are indeed challenging times for each of us as an Earthling, an American, and an elder. How can we each help create islands of sanity to catalyze beloved community? How can we each care for our body-mind so that despair does not stop us from taking compassionate actions in the here and in the now? Your colleague in transformation, Rob Robertson Work Books and bio<https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF> Essays on Substack<https://robertsonwork.substack.com/> Videos and articles<https://www.globalcompassioncoalition.org/author/robertson-work/> Interviews and poetry<https://www.globalheart2heart.com/a-compassionate-civilization-creating-a-new-future-now/?fbclid=IwAR2EAy4c64wCRzlzUCzVKXokqce3hePofFvzdzvCM5aDYRb9QgdFyQPUyxU> ________________________________ From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2025 11:04 PM To: Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com>; Listserve OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Colleague Dialogue <Dialogue@wedgeblade.net> Cc: Sister Judy Wiegel <juneweaver2018@gmail.com>; Ken and Ruth Gilbert <ruthhgilbert@gmail.com>; Wanda Holcombe <wandah70@gmail.com>; Molly Shaw <molly.shaw@comcast.net>; Karen! Snyder <karen.snyder10@gmail.com>; Don Bushman <onedonbushman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ICA group on a path forward Thanks for responding, Rob. And to Judy for connecting with you And anyone else listening, especially the folks who have gotten together on zoom the last 3 saturdays. A couple of weeks ago, Bill Parker, who has been working on (help me if I use the wrong words) forming a human community network in Oklahoma to address human suffering there, sent an email around wondering if it was time for us to talk about “a path forward”. Several of us responded. Bill is looking for wisdom on how to move forward with his next step of connecting social networks across 24 regions in Oklahoma (which he also thinks might be appropriate and perhaps replicable in other places. I recalled work you have done with the “movement of movements” approach and thought that might be helpful However, it seems to me that In our group that has to do with a path forward, we are asking several different questions at this point based on our unique existential situations. Here is my impression, please add and/or correct. There is no organizational connection to ICA or any other organization 1. Bill Parker’s question. How do we weave the networks that are building the new society together with a deeper sense of commonality and therefore more effectiveness 2. Wanda‘ Holcombe’s question how do I stay in touch and float with the brand new and how does the global become our local through the internet 3. Judi White’s question how do I survive as a Shapeshifter? 4. Susan erickson. How do I stay up on what’s happening and know what to do day by day 5. Don Bushman’s question what wisdom do we have to offer in this moment? 6. Several of us are asking what does it mean to be our age and phase and not some other? 7. Karen Snyder Troxel wondered about being a shape shifter as she is coming up with different ideas each week 8. Judy Wiegel sees this as an exciting time to be alive and i missed her question 9. Michael and Molly Shaw were asking what does a church have to show for it? And where do we locate? 10. Richard Maguire wasn’t really asking. He was showing a pathway of collaboration that he and Maria are working with. That’s very interesting. 11. Milan and Linda Hamilton have contributed stories and energy around their work in Redlands with their ANCA approach Accelerating Neighborhood Climate Action which is built on work that Sunny Walker and others have been working on in Colorado 12. I guess my question was what is my local human development project and 13. Wanda and some are asking How is the Internet and all that access how is that the new local 14. Jean Watts was on but i missed what she said due to a “comfort break” 15. Who have i missed? 16. which got me thinking about Bill‘s question at the end about being more disciplined and moving things forward and it occurred to me that for the most part interaction over the Internet comes first of all as Listening to someone next it comes asl looking at faces on a screen and Serial talking and when we say what about our methods, we have to realize that neither one of those things actually produces transparency or creates a trans establishment — or has much to do with what we used to do that we called our methods Jim Wiegel “…the long work of turning their lives into a celebration is not easy. Come and let us talk“. The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver On Mar 9, 2025, at 11:18 AM, Robertson Work <warkers@msn.com> wrote: Dear Jim, Hope all is well. Judi White wrote to me asking if I would join the Zoom meeting this coming Saturday for the ICA group on a path forward. She also mentioned that you said to the group that I should participate and speak this Saturday. How is the discussion going? What is your vision of what can emerge? What does the group need to hear? Best wishes in this time of transformation, Rob Robertson Work Books and bio<https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF> Essays on Substack<https://robertsonwork.substack.com/> Videos and articles<https://www.globalcompassioncoalition.org/author/robertson-work/> Interviews and poetry<https://www.globalheart2heart.com/a-compassionate-civilization-creating-a-new-future-now/?fbclid=IwAR2EAy4c64wCRzlzUCzVKXokqce3hePofFvzdzvCM5aDYRb9QgdFyQPUyxU>
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