Re: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. Elsa Bengel Sent from Gmail Mobile On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:38 PM <oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400 From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested Message-ID: < CA+Ws0_a0yjsLSQwrJ9_a+Hw0VDRk-g4ciEOibmT5H3Wjd2YB9Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
Fond regards, Shelley Hahn
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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O:E Dialogue combo will work for Paul Noah and myself. We appreciat opportunity for continuing colleague contact. Beret & Paul On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. Elsa Bengel
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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
Fond regards, Shelley Hahn
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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One List - Great! Beret Griffith & Paul Noah Noah.pnoah@gmail.com Beretgriffith@gmail.com Thankyou Beret On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:36 PM Beret Griffith <beretgriffith@gmail.com> wrote:
O:E Dialogue combo will work for Paul Noah and myself. We appreciat opportunity for continuing colleague contact. Beret & Paul
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. Elsa Bengel
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400 From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested Message-ID: < CA+Ws0_a0yjsLSQwrJ9_a+Hw0VDRk-g4ciEOibmT5H3Wjd2YB9Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
Fond regards, Shelley Hahn
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
-- Richard H. T. Alton ICA Global Fund United Methodist Creation Care Behold, all things are being made anew T: 773.344.7172 richard.alton@gmail.com
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Yay. ELSA! *Sunny Walker * *She/her/hers* *On **Arapaho, Cheyenne, Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux) tribal land* Certified Facilitator (Also Certified ToP Facilitator) ToP Methods Mentor Trainer - Upcoming Courses <https://www.top-training.net/w/> Virtual Facilitation Collaborative Senior Facilitator sunny.sunwalker@gmail.com 303-587-3017 For diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging inquiries: sunny@diversityinnovators.com www.diversityinnovators.com For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com On Mon, May 25, 2026, 8:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. Elsa Bengel
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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400 From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested Message-ID: < CA+Ws0_a0yjsLSQwrJ9_a+Hw0VDRk-g4ciEOibmT5H3Wjd2YB9Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
Fond regards, Shelley Hahn
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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One list: “OE/ICA Dialogue” sounds good to me. If desire to continue after Tim, need to explore form/vehicle and who might be interested/capable in taking it on. Multiple emails per thread is sometimes hard to keep up with & follow. I wish there was a format where responses fit under the introduced topic, then click & read the responses if desired or not. Onward,Debra HarrisHouston Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, May 26, 2026, 5:34 PM, Sunny Walker via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Yay. ELSA! Sunny Walker She/her/hersOn Arapaho, Cheyenne, Núu-agha-tʉvʉ-pʉ̱ (Ute), and Očeti Šakówiŋ (Sioux) tribal land Certified Facilitator (Also Certified ToP Facilitator) ToP Methods Mentor Trainer - Upcoming CoursesVirtual Facilitation Collaborative Senior Facilitatorsunny.sunwalker@gmail.com303-587-3017 For diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging inquiries:sunny@diversityinnovators.comwww.diversityinnovators.com For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.comwww.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com On Mon, May 25, 2026, 8:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. Elsa Bengel Sent from Gmail Mobile On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:38 PM <oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Send OE mailing list submissions to oe@lists.wedgeblade.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net You can reach the person managing the list at oe-owner@lists.wedgeblade.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of OE digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn) 2. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn) 3. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (David Marshall) 4. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (David Marshall) 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner) 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Ken Fisher) 7. 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner) (Richard and Maria Maguire) 8. Re: 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner) (James Wiegel) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400 From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested Message-ID: <CA+Ws0_a0yjsLSQwrJ9_a+Hw0VDRk-g4ciEOibmT5H3Wjd2YB9Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ? Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim! Fond regards, Shelley Hahn On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
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I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
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The threading you are wishing for, Debra, is really a function of your email program. For instance, I have gmail and use Apple’s mail program on my devices and I have threading, but that is because of the apps I am using. Seth T. Longacre Setúbal, Portugal Unapologetically committed to equality, diversity, compassion, love, and justice. ———-O0ooo— ———–(——)— ————)–-/—- ————(_/- —-ooo0O—- —-(——)—- —–\-–(– ——\_)-
No dia 28 de mai. de 2026, às 23:41, Debra Harris via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> escreveu:
One list: “OE/ICA Dialogue” sounds good to me. If desire to continue after Tim, need to explore form/vehicle and who might be interested/capable in taking it on.
Multiple emails per thread is sometimes hard to keep up with & follow. I wish there was a format where responses fit under the introduced topic, then click & read the responses if desired or not.
Onward, Debra Harris Houston
On Tuesday, May 26, 2026, 5:34 PM, Sunny Walker via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Yay. ELSA!
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For virtual facilitation inquiries: sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com <mailto:sunny@virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com> www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com <http://www.virtualfacilitationcollaborative.com/> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 8:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. Elsa Bengel
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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
Fond regards, Shelley Hahn
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.
*BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
*So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net>> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55 *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton@gmail.com <mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com>>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE@wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net>> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner
_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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