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It is about the 0 Whistlepoints . . . Does anyone have any material on them that you can send to me? Jim Wiegel here. I want to pull together a small collection of background material on the 9 Whistlepoints which were developed out of the Summer 71 and Summer 72 Research Assemblies. I believe they may also have been used extensively as part of lecture 5 in the original LENS course. Jan Sanders did a brief presentation on them at the closing of the Global Archives Research Assembly last month. Embarassingly, I don't have any source materials in my files and have been unable to find anything on line. Jim Wiegel Never trust atoms. They make up everything. a billboard 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277jfwiegel@yahoo.comwww.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities:ToP® Facilitation Methods: Sep 9-10, Nov 18-19, 2014 Click to watch video.ToP® Strategic Planning: Oct 7-8, 2014 Click to learn more.Facilitation Mastery: The Mastering the Technology of Participation program begins in Oakland on Nov 12-14, 2014 Click to watch video.For online registration go to http://www.top-training.netThe AZ ToP® Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday, 1-4 pm, starting again on Sept 5th at ACYR, 648 N. 5th Avenue, Phoenix, AZ 85003AICP Planners: 14.5 CM for all ToP® courses
Jim, I can't find anything in the file to send you, but allow me to share a thought. We spoke of "whistle points" as those points on the SP, etc. where you could "trigger an avalanche." Likewise, we spoke of "pressure points" as those points where, when you apply pressure, you "stop the bleeding." Do both of these not have implications for strategic planning? In systems theory they speak of two kinds of feedback loops--reinforcing and balancing. Reinforcing feedback loops intensify the momentum. Sounds like the same effect as whistle points. Balancing feedback loops slow things down and stabilize the situation. Sounds like pressure points. It strikes me that in devising strategies one way to approach it would be to discern if the situation, in order to resolve the contradiction, calls for a reinforcing approach or a balancing approach, and then choose reinforcing strategies informed by whistle points, or balancing strategies, informed by pressure points, accordingly. Does this make any sense? Randy Sent from my iPad
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:42 AM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
It is about the 0 Whistlepoints . . . Does anyone have any material on them that you can send to me?
Jim Wiegel here. I want to pull together a small collection of background material on the 9 Whistlepoints which were developed out of the Summer 71 and Summer 72 Research Assemblies. I believe they may also have been used extensively as part of lecture 5 in the original LENS course.
Jan Sanders did a brief presentation on them at the closing of the Global Archives Research Assembly last month. Embarassingly, I don't have any source materials in my files and have been unable to find anything on line.
Jim Wiegel
Never trust atoms. They make up everything. a billboard
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
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George West's book, Creating Community: Finding Meaning in the Place We Live - A Handbook for Comprehensive Community Development (2012 Canadian Institute of Cultural Affairs) Part One covers the pressure points and Part Two is on the Social Process triangles related to the Whistle Points. ICA Canada uses the book in their Community Development course. Karen On Oct 23, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Randy Williams via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim,
I can't find anything in the file to send you, but allow me to share a thought. We spoke of "whistle points" as those points on the SP, etc. where you could "trigger an avalanche." Likewise, we spoke of "pressure points" as those points where, when you apply pressure, you "stop the bleeding." Do both of these not have implications for strategic planning?
In systems theory they speak of two kinds of feedback loops--reinforcing and balancing. Reinforcing feedback loops intensify the momentum. Sounds like the same effect as whistle points. Balancing feedback loops slow things down and stabilize the situation. Sounds like pressure points.
It strikes me that in devising strategies one way to approach it would be to discern if the situation, in order to resolve the contradiction, calls for a reinforcing approach or a balancing approach, and then choose reinforcing strategies informed by whistle points, or balancing strategies, informed by pressure points, accordingly. Does this make any sense?
Randy
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:42 AM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
It is about the 0 Whistlepoints . . . Does anyone have any material on them that you can send to me?
Jim Wiegel here. I want to pull together a small collection of background material on the 9 Whistlepoints which were developed out of the Summer 71 and Summer 72 Research Assemblies. I believe they may also have been used extensively as part of lecture 5 in the original LENS course.
Jan Sanders did a brief presentation on them at the closing of the Global Archives Research Assembly last month. Embarassingly, I don't have any source materials in my files and have been unable to find anything on line.
Jim Wiegel
The book should be available through Amazon or iuniverse. Jeanette Stanfield On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
George West's book, *Creating Community: Finding Meaning in the Place We Live - A Handbook for Comprehensive Community Development *(2012 Canadian Institute of Cultural Affairs) Part One covers the pressure points and Part Two is on the Social Process triangles related to the Whistle Points. ICA Canada uses the book in their Community Development course.
Karen
On Oct 23, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Randy Williams via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim,
I can't find anything in the file to send you, but allow me to share a thought. We spoke of "whistle points" as those points on the SP, etc. where you could "trigger an avalanche." Likewise, we spoke of "pressure points" as those points where, when you apply pressure, you "stop the bleeding." Do both of these not have implications for strategic planning?
In systems theory they speak of two kinds of feedback loops--reinforcing and balancing. Reinforcing feedback loops intensify the momentum. Sounds like the same effect as whistle points. Balancing feedback loops slow things down and stabilize the situation. Sounds like pressure points.
It strikes me that in devising strategies one way to approach it would be to discern if the situation, in order to resolve the contradiction, calls for a reinforcing approach or a balancing approach, and then choose reinforcing strategies informed by whistle points, or balancing strategies, informed by pressure points, accordingly. Does this make any sense?
Randy
On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:42 AM, James Wiegel via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
It is about the 0 Whistlepoints . . . Does anyone have any material on them that you can send to me?
Jim Wiegel here. I want to pull together a small collection of background material on the 9 Whistlepoints which were developed out of the Summer 71 and Summer 72 Research Assemblies. I believe they may also have been used extensively as part of lecture 5 in the original LENS course.
Jan Sanders did a brief presentation on them at the closing of the Global Archives Research Assembly last month. Embarassingly, I don't have any source materials in my files and have been unable to find anything on line.
Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
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