RS-1 Friday night conversation
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.) 2) First name and book. 3) First name and movie. 4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
My first RS-1 in Philadelphia had 120 people. I remember those questions but there were others like a magazine, etc. it drove me crazy as it was like you had to answer everyone of these questions, you would answer in head and then they switched On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:26 PM Jann McGuire via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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Dick and Jann (et al), My first RS-1 was at Rolling Ridge in North Andover, MA in spring 1966. Joe Crocker recruited me and was 3rd teacher. Joe Pierce was first teacher. I think Don Clark was second teacher. I was a college instructor at the time and very much “in my head”, so I loved the book and movie question, but, like you, Jann, was stumped about what the first question meant. I think I faked some kind of answer. My life was transformed by Sunday noon, and I remember I was called upon at the end of lunch to “send out” the group of about 90 grads. I think it was surely the Spirit that spoke whatever I mouthed, as I would never have felt comfortable or competent to do so.
On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:19 PM, Richard Alton via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
My first RS-1 in Philadelphia had 120 people. I remember those questions but there were others like a magazine, etc. it drove me crazy as it was like you had to answer everyone of these questions, you would answer in head and then they switched
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:26 PM Jann McGuire via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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What are the question that you re are talking about that altered the direction of your lives? A.M. Noel 646-939-1273 On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 1:51 AM Mari Crocker via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Dick and Jann (et al),
My first RS-1 was at Rolling Ridge in North Andover, MA in spring 1966. Joe Crocker recruited me and was 3rd teacher. Joe Pierce was first teacher. I think Don Clark was second teacher. I was a college instructor at the time and very much “in my head”, so I loved the book and movie question, but, like you, Jann, was stumped about what the first question meant. I think I faked some kind of answer. My life was transformed by Sunday noon, and I remember I was called upon at the end of lunch to “send out” the group of about 90 grads. I think it was surely the Spirit that spoke whatever I mouthed, as I would never have felt comfortable or competent to do so.
On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:19 PM, Richard Alton via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
My first RS-1 in Philadelphia had 120 people. I remember those questions but there were others like a magazine, etc. it drove me crazy as it was like you had to answer everyone of these questions, you would answer in head and then they switched
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:26 PM Jann McGuire via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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I truly don't remember what I responded Fri nite RSI and same with whenever qas the tombstone question. I do remember not being able to answer with anything with resolve (whuch I now understand why 50 years later). I do very vividly recall the Tillich "Are you accepted?" That was a life changing seminar for me. Judy Hess led that one. I remember Don McLaine drawing the sweeps of history arcs as an awakening to the reality that life is history long. in one course. Individual and Family qas our first timeline and working together for thar matter and deciding our family qas mission. By Imagical Education, the truly transforming weekend, I was ready for the journey which has been a long and slow reinvention if my life. Judi White
Is it possible to write the RS- 1 as a manual for life. A.M. Noel\646-939-1273 On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:56 PM Jann McGuire via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event. From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jann McGuire via OE Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:11 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Cc: Jann McGuire Subject: [Oe List ...] RS-1 Friday night conversation Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.) 2) First name and book. 3) First name and movie. 4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . . Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jann McGuire via OE Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:11 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Cc: Jann McGuire Subject: [Oe List ...] RS-1 Friday night conversation
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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When qas the tombstone conversation? On Fri, Sep 6, 2019, 10:56 AM James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
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Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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Jim and all, thanks for the memories and the videos. Yes, a very life changing event and great Imaginal Education!!!! My grounding response was that I was the mother of a precious little red-headed boy and, of course, that came up later in the illustrations… Making me very very aware of helping to make sure the world was a better place for our little boy to grow up in, which led to our leaving shortly to be part of the 5th City project working with lots of little boys and girls. Lynda From: OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of OE List <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: OE List <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Friday, September 6, 2019 at 10:38 AM To: OE List <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Jim and Judy Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] RS-1 Friday night conversation I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . . Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs With Respect, Jim Wiegel On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote: I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event. From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jann McGuire via OE Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:11 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Cc: Jann McGuire Subject: [Oe List ...] RS-1 Friday night conversation Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.) 2) First name and book. 3) First name and movie. 4 ) First name and one pressing concern. _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jann McGuire via OE Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:11 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Cc: Jann McGuire Subject: [Oe List ...] RS-1 Friday night conversation
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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Randy, So many of our courses did the image shift, at least for me. I remember taking CS-I on the near west side (NW Side) of Cleveland. R. Fishel and D. Scott came and did it. I remember greeting them at a bar in their motorcycle boots and black berets with wedgeblade pins! I never expected clergy to be dressed like that! But in was in the section on the Urban Revolution that they had us just walk the neighborhood. I saw things, heard things and felt things I had never noticed before. It was a magical experience, and we had two pastors who became part of the first galaxy in churches there, Jack & Jane Sherlough (sp?) and Jerry & Marty Lapka. Later the very large body of folks who made up the Cleveland Metro Cadres wrote a song to This Land is Your Land about the Cleveland Metro. A fire was lit that has never dimmed in so many of us. I’ll let Jim give his responses to RS-I, but wanted to share my image shifting experience. Jack
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:39, Randy Williams via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs>
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
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Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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Jack, Your story of Bob and David in the bar, and their garb, reminds me that in imaginable education everything is pedagogical, and that a lot of the image shift takes place outside the formal structures. My first RS-1 was in Houston in 1960 something. Joe Pierce was the first teacher, and his very presence was an assault on many of my old images. The course was life changing as billed. But one of the things I remember was a conversation with Joe around the edges. He kept talking about these new things EI was starting called religious houses, so I asked, what is a religious house. He said it was a “sort of hang-out for revolutionaries.” For all time that changed my image of what it meant to be “religious,” and then “the religious.” I know there are thousands of stories like this we could all tell. Maybe we should, and maybe they should have a place in the Archives. Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 PM, Jack Gilles <jackcgilles@gmail.com> wrote:
Randy,
So many of our courses did the image shift, at least for me. I remember taking CS-I on the near west side (NW Side) of Cleveland. R. Fishel and D. Scott came and did it. I remember greeting them at a bar in their motorcycle boots and black berets with wedgeblade pins! I never expected clergy to be dressed like that! But in was in the section on the Urban Revolution that they had us just walk the neighborhood. I saw things, heard things and felt things I had never noticed before. It was a magical experience, and we had two pastors who became part of the first galaxy in churches there, Jack & Jane Sherlough (sp?) and Jerry & Marty Lapka. Later the very large body of folks who made up the Cleveland Metro Cadres wrote a song to This Land is Your Land about the Cleveland Metro. A fire was lit that has never dimmed in so many of us.
I’ll let Jim give his responses to RS-I, but wanted to share my image shifting experience.
Jack
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:39, Randy Williams via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
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Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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I probably overthought this Randy . . . RS-1 . . . which I took on US Thanksgiving weekend of 1966, in room B at 3444 West Congress Parkway, (and repeated a number of times including learning how to teach the course — I took a RS-1 Pedagogy course sometime in the spring of 1967) . . . Shifted my image of how to participate — in life, in the world, with other people —from being a part of the audience to something much more active and responsible — a pushy, adventurous and thrilling way of being. Shifted my image of what was happening at my time in history — from a kind of naive uneasiness and upset to an appreciation of the wonder and significance of my time in history — that this was a revolutionary time to be alive Sharpened my image of my being as a Christian from a lot of bits and pieces of Bible verses and hymns and creeds all generally aimed at having me be a well-behaved person to a sharper, more focused gestalt that gave me images of how of God, Christ, Holy Spirit, Slice of Life, Church showed up in my life and challenged my living — these many pieces that were wandering around in my consciousness came together sharply — and this was all about a deeper consciousness of what life is all about. I had a kind of picture of what each of these was pointing to in my life — not just something someone told me, but I had had to wrestle with and come up with something. I also got a broadened image of who might be involved in this — I remember one of the teachers I am not sure who, it might have been Jack Barringer who was talking in what to me was a southern accent, and it made me nervous and a little afraid of what I might have gotten myself into. Not to mention the funny bowls of cream of wheat that were served along with scrambled eggs and which the person next to me ate by putting salt and pepper on them What got me was the way it was done — first, the whole setting was designed to communicate — room set up, teacher’s roles, the gong, worship set up, etc. second the cycle of conversation that raised issues with my life, a lecture that set a context background and then study and a seminar where I /we the participants had to grapple with making sense of something and grounding it in our experience. Third was the surrounding fabric that reinforced the course in so many ways — from the meal introductions “I have a friend named Socrates who says there are 2 kinds of people in the world — there are pigs and persons . . . Let us be self-conscious persons this weekend” to the study method “Number the paragraphs . .” All my life I had been told not to write in books . . The group method, the art forms . . . The little lecture introductions, the role of art, the poems “I was so weary of the world”. I think it was Frank Hilliard who read “How Beastly the Bourgeois is” and he held the book by a corner between thumb and forefinger and at the end of the poem just dropped it like a crumpled bit of trash. And Mimi Shinn (I think) was the hostess and she was the only one who was nice to me. With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
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Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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On 10-Sep-2019, at 4:23 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I probably overthought this Randy . . .
RS-1 . . .
which I took on US Thanksgiving weekend of 1966, in room B at 3444 West Congress Parkway, (and repeated a number of times including learning how to teach the course — I took a RS-1 Pedagogy course sometime in the spring of 1967) . . .
Shifted my image of how to participate — in life, in the world, with other people —from being a part of the audience to something much more active and responsible — a pushy, adventurous and thrilling way of being.
Shifted my image of what was happening at my time in history — from a kind of naive uneasiness and upset to an appreciation of the wonder and significance of my time in history — that this was a revolutionary time to be alive
Sharpened my image of my being as a Christian from a lot of bits and pieces of Bible verses and hymns and creeds all generally aimed at having me be a well-behaved person to a sharper, more focused gestalt that gave me images of how of God, Christ, Holy Spirit, Slice of Life, Church showed up in my life and challenged my living — these many pieces that were wandering around in my consciousness came together sharply — and this was all about a deeper consciousness of what life is all about. I had a kind of picture of what each of these was pointing to in my life — not just something someone told me, but I had had to wrestle with and come up with something.
I also got a broadened image of who might be involved in this — I remember one of the teachers I am not sure who, it might have been Jack Barringer who was talking in what to me was a southern accent, and it made me nervous and a little afraid of what I might have gotten myself into. Not to mention the funny bowls of cream of wheat that were served along with scrambled eggs and which the person next to me ate by putting salt and pepper on them
What got me was the way it was done — first, the whole setting was designed to communicate — room set up, teacher’s roles, the gong, worship set up, etc. second the cycle of conversation that raised issues with my life, a lecture that set a context background and then study and a seminar where I /we the participants had to grapple with making sense of something and grounding it in our experience. Third was the surrounding fabric that reinforced the course in so many ways — from the meal introductions “I have a friend named Socrates who says there are 2 kinds of people in the world — there are pigs and persons . . . Let us be self-conscious persons this weekend” to the study method “Number the paragraphs . .” All my life I had been told not to write in books . . The group method, the art forms . . . The little lecture introductions, the role of art, the poems “I was so weary of the world”. I think it was Frank Hilliard who read “How Beastly the Bourgeois is” and he held the book by a corner between thumb and forefinger and at the end of the poem just dropped it like a crumpled bit of trash. And Mimi Shinn (I think) was the hostess and she was the only one who was nice to me.
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
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Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORIS HAHN A.M. Noel 646-939-1273 On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:24 AM Mary Kurian D'Souza via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Funny
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On 10-Sep-2019, at 4:23 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I probably overthought this Randy . . .
RS-1 . . .
which I took on US Thanksgiving weekend of 1966, in room B at 3444 West Congress Parkway, (and repeated a number of times including learning how to teach the course — I took a RS-1 Pedagogy course sometime in the spring of 1967) . . .
Shifted my image of how to participate — in life, in the world, with other people —from being a part of the audience to something much more active and responsible — a pushy, adventurous and thrilling way of being.
Shifted my image of what was happening at my time in history — from a kind of naive uneasiness and upset to an appreciation of the wonder and significance of my time in history — that this was a revolutionary time to be alive
Sharpened my image of my being as a Christian from a lot of bits and pieces of Bible verses and hymns and creeds all generally aimed at having me be a well-behaved person to a sharper, more focused gestalt that gave me images of how of God, Christ, Holy Spirit, Slice of Life, Church showed up in my life and challenged my living — these many pieces that were wandering around in my consciousness came together sharply — and this was all about a deeper consciousness of what life is all about. I had a kind of picture of what each of these was pointing to in my life — not just something someone told me, but I had had to wrestle with and come up with something.
I also got a broadened image of who might be involved in this — I remember one of the teachers I am not sure who, it might have been Jack Barringer who was talking in what to me was a southern accent, and it made me nervous and a little afraid of what I might have gotten myself into. Not to mention the funny bowls of cream of wheat that were served along with scrambled eggs and which the person next to me ate by putting salt and pepper on them
What got me was the way it was done — first, the whole setting was designed to communicate — room set up, teacher’s roles, the gong, worship set up, etc. second the cycle of conversation that raised issues with my life, a lecture that set a context background and then study and a seminar where I /we the participants had to grapple with making sense of something and grounding it in our experience. Third was the surrounding fabric that reinforced the course in so many ways — from the meal introductions “I have a friend named Socrates who says there are 2 kinds of people in the world — there are pigs and persons . . . Let us be self-conscious persons this weekend” to the study method “Number the paragraphs . .” All my life I had been told not to write in books . . The group method, the art forms . . . The little lecture introductions, the role of art, the poems “I was so weary of the world”. I think it was Frank Hilliard who read “How Beastly the Bourgeois is” and he held the book by a corner between thumb and forefinger and at the end of the poem just dropped it like a crumpled bit of trash. And Mimi Shinn (I think) was the hostess and she was the only one who was nice to me.
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE < oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
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Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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Dear Doris, Birthday time again ! We wish you a very special Day, and thank you for being such a wonderful example and role model all these years to me and to others. You are beloved and blessed. xoxo 🐨🦋🌹🌏💕 Isobel and Jim Bishop Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Sep 2019, at 10:56 pm, A.M. Noel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORIS HAHN A.M. Noel 646-939-1273
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:24 AM Mary Kurian D'Souza via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Funny
Sent from my iPhone
On 10-Sep-2019, at 4:23 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I probably overthought this Randy . . .
RS-1 . . .
which I took on US Thanksgiving weekend of 1966, in room B at 3444 West Congress Parkway, (and repeated a number of times including learning how to teach the course — I took a RS-1 Pedagogy course sometime in the spring of 1967) . . .
Shifted my image of how to participate — in life, in the world, with other people —from being a part of the audience to something much more active and responsible — a pushy, adventurous and thrilling way of being.
Shifted my image of what was happening at my time in history — from a kind of naive uneasiness and upset to an appreciation of the wonder and significance of my time in history — that this was a revolutionary time to be alive
Sharpened my image of my being as a Christian from a lot of bits and pieces of Bible verses and hymns and creeds all generally aimed at having me be a well-behaved person to a sharper, more focused gestalt that gave me images of how of God, Christ, Holy Spirit, Slice of Life, Church showed up in my life and challenged my living — these many pieces that were wandering around in my consciousness came together sharply — and this was all about a deeper consciousness of what life is all about. I had a kind of picture of what each of these was pointing to in my life — not just something someone told me, but I had had to wrestle with and come up with something.
I also got a broadened image of who might be involved in this — I remember one of the teachers I am not sure who, it might have been Jack Barringer who was talking in what to me was a southern accent, and it made me nervous and a little afraid of what I might have gotten myself into. Not to mention the funny bowls of cream of wheat that were served along with scrambled eggs and which the person next to me ate by putting salt and pepper on them
What got me was the way it was done — first, the whole setting was designed to communicate — room set up, teacher’s roles, the gong, worship set up, etc. second the cycle of conversation that raised issues with my life, a lecture that set a context background and then study and a seminar where I /we the participants had to grapple with making sense of something and grounding it in our experience. Third was the surrounding fabric that reinforced the course in so many ways — from the meal introductions “I have a friend named Socrates who says there are 2 kinds of people in the world — there are pigs and persons . . . Let us be self-conscious persons this weekend” to the study method “Number the paragraphs . .” All my life I had been told not to write in books . . The group method, the art forms . . . The little lecture introductions, the role of art, the poems “I was so weary of the world”. I think it was Frank Hilliard who read “How Beastly the Bourgeois is” and he held the book by a corner between thumb and forefinger and at the end of the poem just dropped it like a crumpled bit of trash. And Mimi Shinn (I think) was the hostess and she was the only one who was nice to me.
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com> wrote:
Jim, I think you’re probably correct. What would you say were some of the more important image shifts that occurred in RS-1? Randy
On Sep 6, 2019, at 10:38 AM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I don’t remember the part about arguing with the participants during the Friday dinner conversation. I got thinking about this because the Archive group was recently reviewing the Imaginal Education collection in the archive website and it occurred to me that I think the RS-1 course was the best and most refined example of imaginal education that we ever came up with . . .
Here is a link to some additional remembrances of RS-1. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUk2c_1SJ0s82ALQvVkg5VLcDiUxrEmrs
With Respect, Jim Wiegel
On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Margaret Aiseayew via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I remember telling the group at my first RS-1 that what grounded me in history was that I was an Iowa farm girl. Whoever was leading tried to argue with me and I argued that they knew nothing about electricity. (My farmer father had spent evenings wiring houses and as kids my brother and I often went with him.) My grounding in history has never changed, even as much as most of my other thinking did in response to that event.
From: OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jann McGuire via OE Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:11 PM To: Order Ecumenical Community Cc: Jann McGuire Subject: [Oe List ...] RS-1 Friday night conversation
Jim, I'm neurotic enough to still have my RS-1 file folders. The Friday evening conversation was 1) full name and one thing that grounds in history (I remember not understanding exactly what that meant.)
2) First name and book.
3) First name and movie.
4 ) First name and one pressing concern.
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