Don't we all?  Hard to let go of
Jim Wiegel

“…the long work
of turning their lives
into a celebration
is not easy. Come 
and let us talk“. 

The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver


On Dec 15, 2023, at 3:10 PM, carletonstock@aol.com wrote:


Seems like Trump instinctively knows this (and uses it for his own promotion and defense)!
Carleton Stock
St. Louis

On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 11:08:51 PM CST, Nancy Trask via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


A long and fearsome/fascinating article.  
Thanks,
Nancy Trask


On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:33 PM James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
"What this means is that for any individual organism or organization, there are no such things as "facts." There are
only messages filtered through a changeable value system. This statement may sound rather startling."
This from the paper we used in the 1969 version of the Imaginal Education Colloquy . . .

See below an article on the history of "the fact"







Jim Wiegel

“…the long work
of turning their lives
into a celebration
is not easy. Come 
and let us talk“. 

The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver

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