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1. Re: David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today (David Marshall)
2. Re: David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today (Susan Fertig)
3. Re: David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today (Debra Harris)
4. Re: David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today (Susan Fertig)
5. Re: David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today (James Wiegel)
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David, I took my RS-1 the first time in 1971. It was very much still available.
Susan
Susan Fertig-Dykes
And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11
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Whoops, that last message about Order Kids? structures was meant for Wesson. As an OE listserv newbie, I?m still trying to navigate.
Responding to Debra?s comment, that?s one of the reasons I was compelled to write IRON BOY, to give a first-hand account from a child?s and teenager?s perspective from the beginning. Many friends, family, co-works and history buffs over multiple generations have heard about those early days in the Order, but I suspect much of it was second-, third-, or fourth-hand. It?s like playing Telephone as a kid. By the time the secret sentence whispered in each year gets to the end of the line, it?s a far cry from what the original child said.
Another motivator for me: I wondered how many folks who joined the ICA in the 1970s and later ever knew what RS-1 was or could measure its direct or indirect impact for themselves if it was not longer available. Many readers may be surprised that an RS-1 primer is embedded inside IRON BOY for that very reason, albeit from an 11-year-old?s perspective. Many EI/ICA alumni may still ask today how much of RS-1 could be understood by a child or teenager. I?ll attempt to answer that in a listserv post this coming weekend.
David, Moraga, CA
Sent from my iPad
David Marshall
? I ordered it on Kindle and just started reading it- thank you David for your perspective and insights.
I encountered and joined the Order in 1984 when I was 26 and often wondered what is was like to grow up in the Order, especially in the earlier years.
Sincerely,
Debra Harris Watson
Houston
They weren't very big . . .
The unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing. John Lennon
I don't remember having an Iron Man statue in the houses I was in.. but it was a long time ago.
Dick
Yes David, There was an Iron Man statue in every Religious House. Congratulations on your book. I have ordered it, Mary Laura Jones
Mary Laura Jones
Grants Resource Development Consultant
53599 Pulver Road
Three Rivers, MI 49093
Dear Former Order Colleagues & Friends,
Sunday ?House Church? Blastoff! (Father?s Day - appropriate launch day since Order fathers loom large in this book)
IRON BOY is officially for sale today on Amazon as both a paperback and e-book.
The Iron Man statue is still alive and well in Fifth City sixty years later. In 2021, I visited Chicago with my wife, daughter, son, and their partners, and we all went to visit Fifth City and the Iron Man?they for the first time. Attached are some photos, of me in front of the Iron Man with the Program Center in the background where I took part of the Academy, the still-running ?Iron Man Can? Fifth City Preschool, and my old elementary school, now renamed Leif Ericson Scholastic Academy.
Also a vintage wintertime Iron Man statue photo that I used for the front cover of IRON BOY.
And finally a little artifact from that era I just received. I visited my 93-year old dad Gene and 91-year-old step-mom Joyce in Texas recently, and they gave me this seven-inch-tall metal Iron Man statute that they had picked up along the way from the Wichita Religious House. Did all the Religious Houses have one?
When I raise up my hands like the Iron Man, I think of these words from the Order song, ?Free, free, free to decide, what this world is going to be.? We've still got a lot of work to do!
Much appreciation for putting up with my 10-week House Church countdown to IRON BOY?s debut. If you read it, or share it with others, please let me know the impact. You can obtain both the paperback and e-book now on Amazon, and through other bookstores soon.
Grace & Peace,
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When was the last RS-1 taught? Did it?vary?depending on the area? And was?it taught in Canada or any other nations??
?Of course the?concepts of RS-1 were embedded into ITI?and HDTP, as well as the Academy. However, the Turn to the World necessitated a reformulation,?to broaden language & context?for a variety of cultures & faith traditions- though the fundamental concepts were universal.?
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David, I took my RS-1 the first time in 1971. It was very much still available.
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Susan
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Susan Fertig-Dykes
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And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . ?Isaiah 58:11
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 4:09 PM
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Whoops, that last message about Order Kids? structures was meant for Wesson. As an OE listserv newbie, I?m still trying to navigate.
?
Responding to Debra?s comment, that?s one of the reasons I was compelled to write IRON BOY, to give a first-hand account from a child?s and teenager?s perspective from the beginning. Many friends, family, co-works and history buffs over multiple generations have heard about those early days in the Order, but I suspect much of it was second-, third-, or fourth-hand. It?s like playing Telephone as a kid. By the time the secret sentence whispered in each year gets to the end of the line, it?s a far cry from what the original child said.
?
Another motivator for me: I wondered how many folks who joined the ICA in the 1970s and later ever knew what RS-1 was or could measure its direct or indirect impact for themselves if it was not longer available. Many readers may be surprised that an RS-1 primer is embedded inside IRON BOY for that very reason, albeit from an 11-year-old?s perspective. Many EI/ICA alumni may still ask today how much of RS-1 could be understood by a child or teenager. I?ll attempt to answer that in a listserv post this coming weekend.
?
David, Moraga, CA
?
Sent from my iPad
David Marshall
? I ordered it on Kindle and just started reading it- thank you?David for your perspective and insights.?
?
I encountered and joined?the Order in 1984 when I was 26 and often wondered what is was like to grow up in the Order, especially in the earlier years.?
?
Sincerely,
Debra Harris Watson
Houston?
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
?
They weren't very big . . .
?
Jim Wiegel?
The unknown is what is.? And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that.? Unknown is what is.? Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing.? ??John Lennon
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I don't remember having an Iron Man statue in the houses I was in.. but it was a long time ago.
Dick
?
Yes David, There was an Iron Man statue in every Religious House.? Congratulations on your book. I have ordered it, Mary Laura Jones
?
Mary Laura Jones
Grants Resource Development Consultant
53599 Pulver Road
Three Rivers, MI 49093
?
?
Dear Former Order Colleagues & Friends,
?
Sunday ?House Church? Blastoff!?(Father?s Day - appropriate launch day since Order fathers loom large in this book)
IRON BOY is officially for sale today on Amazon as both a paperback and e-book.
The Iron Man statue is still alive and well in Fifth City sixty years later. In 2021, I visited Chicago with my wife, daughter, son, and their partners, and we all went to visit Fifth City and the Iron Man?they for the first time. Attached are some photos, of me in front of the Iron Man with the Program Center in the background where I took part of the Academy, the still-running ?Iron Man Can? Fifth City Preschool, and my old elementary school, now renamed Leif Ericson Scholastic Academy.?
Also a vintage wintertime Iron Man statue photo that I used for the front cover of IRON BOY.
And finally a little artifact from that era I just received. I visited my 93-year old dad Gene and 91-year-old step-mom Joyce in Texas recently, and they gave me this seven-inch-tall metal Iron Man statute that they had picked up along the way from the Wichita Religious House. Did all the Religious Houses have one?
When I raise up my hands like the Iron Man, I think of these words from the Order song, ?Free, free, free to decide, what this world is going to be.? We've still got a lot of work to do!
Much appreciation for putting up with my 10-week House Church countdown to IRON BOY?s debut. If you read it, or share it with others, please let me know the impact. You can obtain both the paperback and e-book now on Amazon, and through other bookstores soon.
Grace & Peace,
?
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ICA Global Fund
United Methodist Net Zero
Make Plain the Vision, Habakkuh 2:2
Won't you be my neighbor?
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Yes, it was taught in Venezuela. Lead teacher for my first RA-I was Steve Allen. Later I assisted in getting us ready for them--Dave Clark and Marg Tomlinson came to teach it. Then we had various other courses, like CS-III etc.
Susan
Susan Fertig-Dykes
And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11
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When was the last RS-1 taught? Did it vary depending on the area? And was it taught in Canada or any other nations?
Of course the concepts of RS-1 were embedded into ITI and HDTP, as well as the Academy. However, the Turn to the World necessitated a reformulation, to broaden language & context for a variety of cultures & faith traditions- though the fundamental concepts were universal.
Debra Harris-Watson
Houston
David, I took my RS-1 the first time in 1971. It was very much still available.
Susan
Susan Fertig-Dykes
And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today
Whoops, that last message about Order Kids? structures was meant for Wesson. As an OE listserv newbie, I?m still trying to navigate.
Responding to Debra?s comment, that?s one of the reasons I was compelled to write IRON BOY, to give a first-hand account from a child?s and teenager?s perspective from the beginning. Many friends, family, co-works and history buffs over multiple generations have heard about those early days in the Order, but I suspect much of it was second-, third-, or fourth-hand. It?s like playing Telephone as a kid. By the time the secret sentence whispered in each year gets to the end of the line, it?s a far cry from what the original child said.
Another motivator for me: I wondered how many folks who joined the ICA in the 1970s and later ever knew what RS-1 was or could measure its direct or indirect impact for themselves if it was not longer available. Many readers may be surprised that an RS-1 primer is embedded inside IRON BOY for that very reason, albeit from an 11-year-old?s perspective. Many EI/ICA alumni may still ask today how much of RS-1 could be understood by a child or teenager. I?ll attempt to answer that in a listserv post this coming weekend.
David, Moraga, CA
Sent from my iPad
David Marshall
? I ordered it on Kindle and just started reading it- thank you David for your perspective and insights.
I encountered and joined the Order in 1984 when I was 26 and often wondered what is was like to grow up in the Order, especially in the earlier years.
Sincerely,
Debra Harris Watson
Houston
They weren't very big . . .
The unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing. John Lennon
I don't remember having an Iron Man statue in the houses I was in.. but it was a long time ago.
Dick
Yes David, There was an Iron Man statue in every Religious House. Congratulations on your book. I have ordered it, Mary Laura Jones
Mary Laura Jones
Grants Resource Development Consultant
53599 Pulver Road
Three Rivers, MI 49093
Dear Former Order Colleagues & Friends,
Sunday ?House Church? Blastoff! (Father?s Day - appropriate launch day since Order fathers loom large in this book)
IRON BOY is officially for sale today on Amazon as both a paperback and e-book.
The Iron Man statue is still alive and well in Fifth City sixty years later. In 2021, I visited Chicago with my wife, daughter, son, and their partners, and we all went to visit Fifth City and the Iron Man?they for the first time. Attached are some photos, of me in front of the Iron Man with the Program Center in the background where I took part of the Academy, the still-running ?Iron Man Can? Fifth City Preschool, and my old elementary school, now renamed Leif Ericson Scholastic Academy.
Also a vintage wintertime Iron Man statue photo that I used for the front cover of IRON BOY.
And finally a little artifact from that era I just received. I visited my 93-year old dad Gene and 91-year-old step-mom Joyce in Texas recently, and they gave me this seven-inch-tall metal Iron Man statute that they had picked up along the way from the Wichita Religious House. Did all the Religious Houses have one?
When I raise up my hands like the Iron Man, I think of these words from the Order song, ?Free, free, free to decide, what this world is going to be.? We've still got a lot of work to do!
Much appreciation for putting up with my 10-week House Church countdown to IRON BOY?s debut. If you read it, or share it with others, please let me know the impact. You can obtain both the paperback and e-book now on Amazon, and through other bookstores soon.
Grace & Peace,
_______________________________________________
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ICA Global Fund
United Methodist Net Zero
Make Plain the Vision, Habakkuh 2:2
Won't you be my neighbor?
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Theunknown is what is.? And to be frightened of it is what sends everybodyscurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, allthat.? Unknown is what is.? Accept that it's unknown, and it's plainsailing.? ??John Lennon
Yes, it was taught in Venezuela. Lead teacher for my first RA-I was Steve Allen. Later I assisted in getting us ready for them--Dave Clark and Marg Tomlinson came to teach it. Then we had various other courses, like CS-III etc.
Susan
?
Susan Fertig-Dykes
?
And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11
?
?
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 6:36:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today?When was the last RS-1 taught? Did it?vary?depending on the area? And was?it taught in Canada or any other nations??
?Of course the?concepts of RS-1 were embedded into ITI?and HDTP, as well as the Academy. However, the Turn to the World necessitated a reformulation,?to broadenlanguage & context?for a variety of cultures & faith traditions- though the fundamental concepts were universal.?
Debra Harris-WatsonHouston
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
David, I took my RS-1 the first time in 1971. It was very much still available.
?
Susan
?
Susan Fertig-Dykes
?
And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . ?Isaiah 58:11
?
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2025 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today
?
Whoops, that last message about Order Kids? structures was meant for Wesson. As an OE listserv newbie, I?m still trying to navigate.
?
Responding to Debra?s comment, that?s one of the reasons I was compelled to write IRON BOY, to give a first-hand account from a child?s and teenager?s perspective from the beginning. Many friends, family, co-works and history buffs over multiple generations have heard about those early days in the Order, but I suspect much of it was second-, third-, or fourth-hand. It?s like playing Telephone as a kid. By the time the secret sentence whispered in each year gets to the end of the line, it?s a far cry from what the original child said.
?
Another motivator for me: I wondered how many folks who joined the ICA in the 1970s and later ever knew what RS-1 was or could measure its direct or indirect impact for themselves if it was not longer available. Many readers may be surprised that an RS-1 primer is embedded inside IRON BOY for that very reason, albeit from an 11-year-old?s perspective. Many EI/ICA alumni may still ask today how much of RS-1 could be understood by a child or teenager. I?ll attempt to answer that in a listserv post this coming weekend.
?
David, Moraga, CA
?
Sent from my iPad
David Marshall
? I ordered it on Kindle and just started reading it- thank you?David for your perspective and insights.?
?
I encountered and joined?the Order in 1984 when I was 26 and often wondered what is was like to grow up in the Order, especially in the earlier years.?
?
Sincerely,
Debra Harris Watson
Houston?
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
?
They weren't very big . . .
?
Jim Wiegel?
The unknown is what is.? And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that.? Unknown is what is.? Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing.? ??John Lennon
?
?
?
?
?
I don't remember having an Iron Man statue in the houses I was in.. but it was a long time ago.
Dick
?
Yes David, There was an Iron Man statue in every Religious House.? Congratulations on your book. I have ordered it, Mary Laura Jones
?
Mary Laura Jones
Grants Resource Development Consultant
53599 Pulver Road
Three Rivers, MI 49093
?
?
Dear Former Order Colleagues & Friends,
?
Sunday ?House Church? Blastoff!?(Father?s Day - appropriate launch day since Order fathers loom large in this book)
IRON BOY is officially for sale today on Amazon as both a paperback and e-book.
The Iron Man statue is still alive and well in Fifth City sixty years later. In 2021, I visited Chicago with my wife, daughter, son, and their partners, and we all went to visit Fifth City and the Iron Man?they for the first time. Attached are some photos, of me in front of the Iron Man with the Program Center in the background where I took part of the Academy, the still-running ?Iron Man Can? Fifth City Preschool, and my old elementary school, now renamed Leif Ericson Scholastic Academy.?
Also a vintage wintertime Iron Man statue photo that I used for the front cover of IRON BOY.
And finally a little artifact from that era I just received. I visited my 93-year old dad Gene and 91-year-old step-mom Joyce in Texas recently, and they gave me this seven-inch-tall metal Iron Man statute that they had picked up along the way from the Wichita Religious House. Did all the Religious Houses have one?
When I raise up my hands like the Iron Man, I think of these words from the Order song, ?Free, free, free to decide, what this world is going to be.? We've still got a lot of work to do!
Much appreciation for putting up with my 10-week House Church countdown to IRON BOY?s debut. If you read it, or share it with others, please let me know the impact. You can obtain both the paperback and e-book now on Amazon, and through other bookstores soon.
Grace & Peace,
?
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?
--
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ICA Global Fund
United Methodist Net Zero
Make Plain the Vision, Habakkuh 2:2
Won't you be my neighbor?
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