Gee Whiz!  BRING a cloth bag?!  Reminds me of something . . . Maybe a dark novel I read once . . . There was this society so restrictive, you had to bring pop bottles back to where you got them . . . Can you imagine?

Anyway, I have enjoyed "going with you all via the occasional pictures and posts . . .

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On Oct 13, 2018, at 00:08, Zoe Barley <zbarley@earthlink.net> wrote:

Really good. Also need to carry a cloth bag. Or pay each time. 

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On Sat Oct 13 07:17:12 GMT 02:00 2018 James Wiegel wrote:
Interesting, did the vineyards look really good?  or, just regulated?

Jim Wiegel  

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    On Friday, October 12, 2018, 10:14:48 PM MST, Zoe Barley <

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Hi,Jim

We'll oddly, it was a visit to the vineyards in France. The growing is tightly regulated to best utilize the land, control for quality, maintain heritage, conserve. I just thot no American wine grower would accept such limitations to his/her entrepreneurial spirit.  

Extrapolated from there. 

Zoe 

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On Fri Oct 12 22:14:17 GMT 02:00 2018 James Wiegel wrote:
For example . . . what caught your imagination, Zoe?

Jim Wiegel  

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    On Friday, October 12, 2018, 12:06:56 PM MST, Zoe Barley via OE <

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Traveling in Europe one is aware how flagrantly wasteful we in the u.s. are. Profligate is another word that applies. And how our individualistic over emphasis prohibits the kind of constraints Europeans accept in recognition of the common good. Americans would never accept the restrictions on their freedoms that here they do. 
How shall we ever build a communal consciousness?  

Zoe Barley 

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