I’m sorry, I want to distance myself from
this message. What Susan said to me didn’t bother me.
I think I agree with others that this is
not the place to carry on a political debate, but it is a place to dialogue. I
would be happy to hear Susan’s thoughts if she wants to share them.
Herman
From:
oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of David Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012
6:49 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good
reflection on Romney
First Susan maligned Herman Green
for saying something he clearly didn't say. Now she makes a
wild unsubstantiated statement that President Obama "is
destroying our country". This is to demand that Susan explain, in
objective non-inflammatory terms, how it is that she thinks that the President
Obama is doing so.
-David Walters
Oh, I heartily agree that it is a turning
point/defining moment, etc. Just that I think the current President is
destroying the country, so I’m coming from a different perspective than yours.
Susan
From: oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On
Behalf Of Herman Greene
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012
1:33 PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good
reflection on Romney
I didn’t assume that everyone on the list was a Democrat.
There are those moments in history that are defining moments.
I could be wrong Susan, but I think this is one of them. It is kind of the end
of an era and so I sent the email as one commenatator’s (not my) statement of
what has become evident. Take it for what it’s worth, but consider that this is
a turning point in American politics and that the debate (the one that will
never end) will now be carried out on a different basis.
I didn’t send the message as a Democratic commentary, but as
news.
Herman
From: oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]
On Behalf Of Susan Fertig
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:21
PM
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good
reflection on Romney
First, I find it offensive that there is an
assumption that everyone on the listserv is a Democrat or espouses that party’s
platform. Look up the definition of “group think”.
Second, I find it offensive to perpetuate
negatively distorted characterizations of one candidate (and I’ve often found
that this listserv also perpetuates characterizations of others that are just
as distorted through bias on perceived positives). That’s the Kool-aid
part.
And yes, the Kool-aid analogy could be
attributed to all of us, myself included, who participated fanatically in
something called the Spirit Movement that came pretty close to being a
cult. You’re right.
Susan
From: oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]
On Behalf Of David Walters
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012
1:05 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A good
reflection on Romney
Susan
You
need to explain what our collegue Herman has said that has offended you.
As
one who is retired, pay no federal income tax, plus in two months from
today I will qualify for Medicare - I am proud to say that I am part of
the 47% that Romney spewed so much contempt for in the video referenced in
Herman's comment.
I
didn't know that Herman was in the Kool-Aid business, although if Joe M athews
was with us and still teaching RS-1, he certainly would be accused of such.
-David Walters
Just for the record, not everyone on
this listserv has drunk your KoolAid, and I’m offended by your language in the
message below and the one that succeeds it.
Susan
Jonathan
Chait says
the hidden
camera video that
went viral yesterday exposes Mitt Romney "as a far more sinister character
than I had imagined. Here is the sneering plutocrat, fully in thrall to a
series of pernicious myths that are at the heart of the mania that has seized
his party. He believes that market incomes in the
"The revelations in this video come to me
as a genuine shock. I have never hated Romney. I presumed his ideological
makeover since he set out to run for president was largely phony, even if he
was now committed to carry through with it, and to whatever extent he'd come to
believe his own lines, he was oblivious or naïve about the damage he would inflict
upon the poor, sick, and vulnerable. It seems unavoidable now to conclude that
Romney's embrace of Paul Ryanism is born of actual contempt for the looters and
moochers, a class war on behalf of his own class."
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