Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling, more like these
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Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe. In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Janice Ulangca * Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call... Message from: Steve's iPad in Chicago Skype: consultharrington Social Media: LinkedIn, FaceBook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen any others? Jim Wiegel "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote: From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe. In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Janice Ulangca * Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call... Message from: Steve's iPad in Chicago Skype: consultharrington Social Media: LinkedIn, FaceBook _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question. Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?" Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
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From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat.
In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?
Janice Ulangca
* Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.
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Jack, Since the word "religious" has become somewhat stilted today, what word would you use in its place in your question without changing what you're pointing to? Randy "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted) ________________________________ From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question. Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?" Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote: Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our
What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
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From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication,
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to
Janice Ulangca * Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology,
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calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe. live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? the depth and openness of life. list
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Good push Randy. Here's a try. "....on the backs of those who have a stance of being intentional, futuric and comprehensive, live out of the word of possibility, (affirmation of all things) and stand self-conciously before the final Mystery of Life." Now that might be too narrow and point to the Ordering dynamic within the religious, so maybe ".....on the backs of those who live on behalf of all." Or, perhaps, as Hess calls them, "The League", or "The Invisible College" and direct people to those sources for more clarity. And your substitution? Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, R Williams wrote:
Jack,
Since the word "religious" has become somewhat stilted today, what word would you use in its place in your question without changing what you're pointing to?
Randy
"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted) From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"
Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote:
From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat.
In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?
Janice Ulangca
* Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.
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Since the word "religious" has become somewhat stilted today, what word would you use in its place in your question without changing what you're pointing to? Randy
"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."-Martin Buber (adapted)
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Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"
Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote: Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our
calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve
What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
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From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication,
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to
Janice Ulangca * Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology,
If it had to be brief enough to put on a T shirt, how about ...on the backs of "those who dare to live the future now." (Margaret Wheatley) or maybe Buber's those who are "bringing to reality the emerging future." These kind of hold the perspective of the wedgeblade, no longer/not yet, etc. "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted) ________________________________ From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . Good push Randy. Here's a try. "....on the backs of those who have a stance of being intentional, futuric and comprehensive, live out of the word of possibility, (affirmation of all things) and stand self-conciously before the final Mystery of Life." Now that might be too narrow and point to the Ordering dynamic within the religious, so maybe ".....on the backs of those who live on behalf of all." Or, perhaps, as Hess calls them, "The League", or "The Invisible College" and direct people to those sources for more clarity. And your substitution? Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, R Williams wrote: Jack, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe. live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? the depth and openness of life.
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The sensitive and responsive part? Jim Wiegel "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. --- On Sun, 7/1/12, R Williams <rcwmbw@yahoo.com> wrote: From: R Williams <rcwmbw@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 10:26 AM If it had to be brief enough to put on a T shirt, how about ...on the backs of "those who dare to live the future now." (Margaret Wheatley) or maybe Buber's those who are "bringing to reality the emerging future." These kind of hold the perspective of the wedgeblade, no longer/not yet, etc. "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted) From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . Good push Randy. Here's a try. "....on the backs of those who have a stance of being intentional, futuric and comprehensive, live out of the word of possibility, (affirmation of all things) and stand self-conciously before the final Mystery of Life." Now that might be too narrow and point to the Ordering dynamic within the religious, so maybe ".....on the backs of those who live on behalf of all." Or, perhaps, as Hess calls them, "The League", or "The Invisible College" and direct people to those sources for more clarity. And your substitution? JackOn Jul 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, R Williams wrote:Jack, Since the word "religious" has become somewhat stilted today, what word would you use in its place in your question without changing what you're pointing to? Randy "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted) From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question. Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?" JackOn Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen any others? Jim Wiegel "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/ Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote: From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe. In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Janice Ulangca * Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call... 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So, Jack, you are a little sneaky like Steve . . . actually more than one question . . . but good, but good . . . Anyone else? Jim Wiegel "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> wrote: From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 9:20 AM Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question. Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?" Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote: Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen any others? Jim Wiegel "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details. --- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote: From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe. In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Janice Ulangca * Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call... 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"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln Abraham Lincoln didn't say that Jim - - you silly willie. Ben Franklin did. Lee On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:37 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
So, Jack, you are a little sneaky like Steve . . . actually more than one question . . . but good, but good . . .
Anyone else?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> wrote:
From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 9:20 AM
Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"
Jack
On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote:
From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat.
In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?
Janice Ulangca
* Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.
----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call...
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And I thought it was St. John of the Cross. The internet can get pretty dark night-ish. Janice Ulangca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Early" <lees.mail@comcast.net> To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
Abraham Lincoln didn't say that Jim - - you silly willie. Ben Franklin did.
Lee
On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:37 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
So, Jack, you are a little sneaky like Steve . . . actually more than one question . . . but good, but good . . .
Anyone else?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> wrote:
From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 9:20 AM
Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"
Jack
On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote:
From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat.
In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?
Janice Ulangca
* Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.
----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call...
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Ah Jim, It's just a german sentence in the form of a question. We used to do it all the time! Jack On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:37 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
So, Jack, you are a little sneaky like Steve . . . actually more than one question . . . but good, but good . . .
Anyone else?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> wrote:
From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . . To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 9:20 AM
Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... "Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"
Jack
On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> wrote:
From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat.
In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?
Janice Ulangca
* Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.
----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Har To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30 PM Subject: [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call...
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Dear Ones, When I read Jan's comments this morning, Thomas Berry's quote came up - for me it begins to come close to a divine calling ...perhaps EARTH could be stretched to all my relations, the universe, life .... " MY GREAT WORK IS WHERE MY OWN GREAT JOY INTERSECTS WITH EARTH'S GREAT NEED" ... With love and gratitude for my colleagues who continue to raise the QUESTION (s) .... Nancy On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:54 AM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:
Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve What are some of the important partnerships the future needs? Jan "How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B "How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen
any others?
Jim Wiegel
"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln
401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401 +1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com
Upcoming public course opportunities: ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012 ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012 The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012 Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.
--- On *Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com>* wrote:
From: Janice Ulangca <aulangca@stny.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM
Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat.
In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is ** * "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.
In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?
Janice Ulangca
** *Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-call...
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Just a minor note -- That "Thomas Berry" quote is not from him. It's Fredrick Breuchner (sp?) Tracy E. Longacre from the Art Monastery, Labro, Italy +44 (7519) 636546 just another child of God Blog: http://tlongacre.wordpress.com Run Blog: http://revruns.blogspot.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlongacre/ Subscribe to e-mail updates: telupdates-subscribe@topica.com ———-O0ooo— ———–(——)— ————)–-/—- ————(_/- —-ooo0O—- —-(——)—- —–\-–(– ——\_)-
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