Re: [Dialogue] Gad, another priest with some balls that don't clank in the da...
Perhaps the retired will aid the young in leading the revolution. Jann In a message dated 6/23/2012 2:11:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehar11201@gmail.com writes: The archbishop of Canterbury has denounced David Cameron's "big society", saying that it comes across as aspirational waffle that was "designed to conceal a deeply damaging withdrawal of the state from its responsibilities to the most vulnerable". The outspoken attack on the prime minister's flagship policy by _Rowan Williams_ (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/rowan-williams) – his strongest to date – is contained in a new book, Faith in the Public Square, that is being prepared for publication ahead of his retirement in December. Passages from the book, obtained by the Observer, reflect the archbishop's deep frustration not just with the policies of Cameron's government and those of its Labour predecessors, but also with what he sees as the west's rampant materialism and unquestioning pursuit of economic growth. Williams also laments spiralling military expenditure, writing that "the adventure in Iraq and its cost in any number of ways seems to beggar the imagination". -- Steve Harrington _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Believe me when I say, as an Anglican myself, that Rowan is decidedly NOT going to aid any revolution and would just as soon sell the young down the river to protect the current establishment. One thing he definitely does NOT have are balls. I find it rather hilarious that they describe something written that will not be published for 6 months as "outspoken"! Tracy Longacre sent from my iPhone On 23 juin 2012, at 23:15, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps the retired will aid the young in leading the revolution.
Jann
In a message dated 6/23/2012 2:11:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehar11201@gmail.com writes: The archbishop of Canterbury has denounced David Cameron's "big society", saying that it comes across as aspirational waffle that was "designed to conceal a deeply damaging withdrawal of the state from its responsibilities to the most vulnerable".
The outspoken attack on the prime minister's flagship policy by Rowan Williams – his strongest to date – is contained in a new book, Faith in the Public Square, that is being prepared for publication ahead of his retirement in December.
Passages from the book, obtained by the Observer, reflect the archbishop's deep frustration not just with the policies of Cameron's government and those of its Labour predecessors, but also with what he sees as the west's rampant materialism and unquestioning pursuit of economic growth. Williams also laments spiralling military expenditure, writing that "the adventure in Iraq and its cost in any number of ways seems to beggar the imagination".
-- Steve Harrington
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Whoa there big pony. Let's take a step back a moment. This is an issue worth debate, investigation and thought - - not more tirade. Who out there knows more about this? This is something of note and we want to hear more, speaking for myself. Anyone have more to add? Lee On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Tracy E. Longacre wrote:
Believe me when I say, as an Anglican myself, that Rowan is decidedly NOT going to aid any revolution and would just as soon sell the young down the river to protect the current establishment. One thing he definitely does NOT have are balls.
I find it rather hilarious that they describe something written that will not be published for 6 months as "outspoken"!
Tracy Longacre sent from my iPhone
On 23 juin 2012, at 23:15, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps the retired will aid the young in leading the revolution.
Jann
In a message dated 6/23/2012 2:11:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehar11201@gmail.com writes: The archbishop of Canterbury has denounced David Cameron's "big society", saying that it comes across as aspirational waffle that was "designed to conceal a deeply damaging withdrawal of the state from its responsibilities to the most vulnerable".
The outspoken attack on the prime minister's flagship policy by Rowan Williams – his strongest to date – is contained in a new book, Faith in the Public Square, that is being prepared for publication ahead of his retirement in December.
Passages from the book, obtained by the Observer, reflect the archbishop's deep frustration not just with the policies of Cameron's government and those of its Labour predecessors, but also with what he sees as the west's rampant materialism and unquestioning pursuit of economic growth. Williams also laments spiralling military expenditure, writing that "the adventure in Iraq and its cost in any number of ways seems to beggar the imagination".
-- Steve Harrington
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Rowan has spoken and written about these ideas for a number of years. Nothing new, he would say. I have no data to support the idea of him doing the equivalent of 'selling children'. I suspect that he prefers to see himself as a theologian and an academic than sit on the seat of Canterbury, where his job is to represent the stated consensus, which he fundamentally disagrees with, as I hear from Anglican priests near him. Paul Sent from my iPhone On 24 Jun 2012, at 08:24, Lee Early <lees.mail@comcast.net> wrote:
Whoa there big pony. Let's take a step back a moment. This is an issue worth debate, investigation and thought - - not more tirade. Who out there knows more about this? This is something of note and we want to hear more, speaking for myself.
Anyone have more to add?
Lee
On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Tracy E. Longacre wrote:
Believe me when I say, as an Anglican myself, that Rowan is decidedly NOT going to aid any revolution and would just as soon sell the young down the river to protect the current establishment. One thing he definitely does NOT have are balls.
I find it rather hilarious that they describe something written that will not be published for 6 months as "outspoken"!
Tracy Longacre sent from my iPhone
On 23 juin 2012, at 23:15, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps the retired will aid the young in leading the revolution.
Jann
In a message dated 6/23/2012 2:11:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehar11201@gmail.com writes: The archbishop of Canterbury has denounced David Cameron's "big society", saying that it comes across as aspirational waffle that was "designed to conceal a deeply damaging withdrawal of the state from its responsibilities to the most vulnerable".
The outspoken attack on the prime minister's flagship policy by Rowan Williams – his strongest to date – is contained in a new book, Faith in the Public Square, that is being prepared for publication ahead of his retirement in December.
Passages from the book, obtained by the Observer, reflect the archbishop's deep frustration not just with the policies of Cameron's government and those of its Labour predecessors, but also with what he sees as the west's rampant materialism and unquestioning pursuit of economic growth. Williams also laments spiralling military expenditure, writing that "the adventure in Iraq and its cost in any number of ways seems to beggar the imagination".
-- Steve Harrington
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Paul who? Please identify yourself! Carol Crow On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:41 AM, Paul wrote:
Rowan has spoken and written about these ideas for a number of years. Nothing new, he would say. I have no data to support the idea of him doing the equivalent of 'selling children'. I suspect that he prefers to see himself as a theologian and an academic than sit on the seat of Canterbury, where his job is to represent the stated consensus, which he fundamentally disagrees with, as I hear from Anglican priests near him. Paul
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On 24 Jun 2012, at 08:24, Lee Early <lees.mail@comcast.net> wrote:
Whoa there big pony. Let's take a step back a moment. This is an issue worth debate, investigation and thought - - not more tirade. Who out there knows more about this? This is something of note and we want to hear more, speaking for myself.
Anyone have more to add?
Lee
On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Tracy E. Longacre wrote:
Believe me when I say, as an Anglican myself, that Rowan is decidedly NOT going to aid any revolution and would just as soon sell the young down the river to protect the current establishment. One thing he definitely does NOT have are balls.
I find it rather hilarious that they describe something written that will not be published for 6 months as "outspoken"!
Tracy Longacre sent from my iPhone
On 23 juin 2012, at 23:15, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps the retired will aid the young in leading the revolution.
Jann
In a message dated 6/23/2012 2:11:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehar11201@gmail.com writes: The archbishop of Canterbury has denounced David Cameron's "big society", saying that it comes across as aspirational waffle that was "designed to conceal a deeply damaging withdrawal of the state from its responsibilities to the most vulnerable".
The outspoken attack on the prime minister's flagship policy by Rowan Williams – his strongest to date – is contained in a new book, Faith in the Public Square, that is being prepared for publication ahead of his retirement in December.
Passages from the book, obtained by the Observer, reflect the archbishop's deep frustration not just with the policies of Cameron's government and those of its Labour predecessors, but also with what he sees as the west's rampant materialism and unquestioning pursuit of economic growth. Williams also laments spiralling military expenditure, writing that "the adventure in Iraq and its cost in any number of ways seems to beggar the imagination".
-- Steve Harrington
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I suspect it is Paul Schrinjen who resides in England. Cynthia Vance Sent from my Kindle Fire _____________________________________________ From: Carol Crow <carol@songaia.com> Sent: Sun Jun 24 10:40:05 EDT 2012 To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Gad, another priest with some balls that don't clank in the da... Paul who? Please identify yourself! Carol Crow On Jun 24, 2012, at 1:41 AM, Paul wrote:
Rowan has spoken and written about these ideas for a number of years. Nothing new, he would say. I have no data to support the idea of him doing the equivalent of 'selling children'. I suspect that he prefers to see himself as a theologian and an academic than sit on the seat of Canterbury, where his job is to represent the stated consensus, which he fundamentally disagrees with, as I hear from Anglican priests near him. Paul
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On 24 Jun 2012, at 08:24, Lee Early <lees.mail@comcast.net> wrote:
Whoa there big pony. Let's take a step back a moment. This is an issue worth debate, investigation and thought - - not more tirade. Who out there knows more about this? This is something of note and we want to hear more, speaking for myself.
Anyone have more to add?
Lee
On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Tracy E. Longacre wrote:
Believe me when I say, as an Anglican myself, that Rowan is decidedly NOT going to aid any revolution and would just as soon sell the young down the river to protect the current establishment. One thing he definitely does NOT have are balls.
I find it rather hilarious that they describe something written that will not be published for 6 months as "outspoken"!
Tracy Longacre sent from my iPhone
On 23 juin 2012, at 23:15, LAURELCG@aol.com wrote:
Perhaps the retired will aid the young in leading the revolution.
Jann
In a message dated 6/23/2012 2:11:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stevehar11201@gmail.com writes: The archbishop of Canterbury has denounced David Cameron's "big society", saying that it comes across as aspirational waffle that was "designed to conceal a deeply damaging withdrawal of the state from its responsibilities to the most vulnerable".
The outspoken attack on the prime minister's flagship policy by Rowan Williams – his strongest to date – is contained in a new book, Faith in the Public Square, that is being prepared for publication ahead of his retirement in December.
Passages from the book, obtained by the Observer, reflect the archbishop's deep frustration not just with the policies of Cameron's government and those of its Labour predecessors, but also with what he sees as the west's rampant materialism and unquestioning pursuit of economic growth. Williams also laments spiralling military expenditure, writing that "the adventure in Iraq and its cost in any number of ways seems to beggar the imagination".
-- Steve Harrington
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