Two Personal connections in Russia and Ukraine
Hello colleagues. Background ICA Denver colleagues and others organized a Jean Houston Mystery School in 1990–1991. Three Russians visited the Mystery School one weekend and were introduced by their host in the US, Dr. Laura Dodson, a Denver Jungian analyst who had visited Russia to meet psychologists and teachers as Russian opened to the world in the 1980s. For reasons unknown to me at the time, I vowed to attend one of the [Virginia Satir] Family Camps—the second one, as it happens—organized by Laura and her new Russian colleagues. I was in Moscow the week before and during the attempted coup of August 19, 1991. I met a man at the family camp who was interested in facilitation methods. We discovered that both of us had been born on November 12: me in 1942, he in 1956. Alexey’s and my friendship has grown ever since, first by fax, then by email, then in each other’s homes, then by Skype and most recently by Zoom and WhatsApp. Connection 1. During the build up of Russian troops around Ukraine in recent weeks, Alexey and I talked at length about the build up of troops. I would say, “This is against international law.” Alexey would say, “But’s it’s complicated.” Both of us agreed we did not have access to all the facts. And then Russian troops invaded Ukraine. My friend emailed the next day: Subject: Ukraine I could not believe that it may happen. As well as many people in Russia. But it happened. I was wrong. Terrible. I replied: You are a dear and faithful friend. Now friends watch in horror. Connection 2. MacPaw is a private Ukrainian software company doing business all over the world. I’ve used two of its products for many years. This morning, Oleksandr Kosovan, Founder and CEO of MacPaw, sent a message about the current situation in Ukraine️. I do not know Mr. Kosovan, accept by his association with a modern technology company that I have appreciated for many years. His email contains a link to sites for information about Putin’s war on Ukraine. Mr. Kosovan wrote: We have selected for you a list of verified sources that objectively cover what is happening in Ukraine. Follow the links and draw your own conclusions. Find out the truth about the events in Ukraine️ <https://macpaw.esclick.me/GodnQZuJy7mu> The screenshot attached below shows part of his message. Stay safe. Lobby for dealing seriously with Russian, protecting Ukraine, and being facilitative leaders and sources of funding for the European Union and NATO. I wish everyone well. David — "Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose" David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com
Thanks much, David! John Cock From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Monday, February 28, 2022 at 2:47 PM To: ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: D Dunn <dmdunn1@gmail.com> Subject: [Dialogue] Two Personal connections in Russia and Ukraine Hello colleagues. Background ICA Denver colleagues and others organized a Jean Houston Mystery School in 1990–1991. Three Russians visited the Mystery School one weekend and were introduced by their host in the US, Dr. Laura Dodson, a Denver Jungian analyst who had visited Russia to meet psychologists and teachers as Russian opened to the world in the 1980s. For reasons unknown to me at the time, I vowed to attend one of the [Virginia Satir] Family Camps—the second one, as it happens—organized by Laura and her new Russian colleagues. I was in Moscow the week before and during the attempted coup of August 19, 1991. I met a man at the family camp who was interested in facilitation methods. We discovered that both of us had been born on November 12: me in 1942, he in 1956. Alexey’s and my friendship has grown ever since, first by fax, then by email, then in each other’s homes, then by Skype and most recently by Zoom and WhatsApp. Connection 1. During the build up of Russian troops around Ukraine in recent weeks, Alexey and I talked at length about the build up of troops. I would say, “This is against international law.” Alexey would say, “But’s it’s complicated.” Both of us agreed we did not have access to all the facts. And then Russian troops invaded Ukraine. My friend emailed the next day: Subject: Ukraine I could not believe that it may happen. As well as many people in Russia. But it happened. I was wrong. Terrible. I replied: You are a dear and faithful friend. Now friends watch in horror. Connection 2. MacPaw is a private Ukrainian software company doing business all over the world. I’ve used two of its products for many years. This morning, Oleksandr Kosovan, Founder and CEO of MacPaw, sent a message about the current situation in Ukraine️. I do not know Mr. Kosovan, accept by his association with a modern technology company that I have appreciated for many years. His email contains a link to sites for information about Putin’s war on Ukraine. Mr. Kosovan wrote: We have selected for you a list of verified sources that objectively cover what is happening in Ukraine. Follow the links and draw your own conclusions. Find out the truth about the events in Ukraine️<https://macpaw.esclick.me/GodnQZuJy7mu> The screenshot attached below shows part of his message. Stay safe. Lobby for dealing seriously with Russian, protecting Ukraine, and being facilitative leaders and sources of funding for the European Union and NATO. I wish everyone well. David — [cid:DAA4528C-742B-4D13-A6E0-FCF91959BC47] "Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose" David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com<mailto:dmdunn1@gmail.com> [cid:EBCFAB05-AD63-496F-9773-5C12C8946268]
Dear David, Thank you for sending these connection. I is helpful to have a particular connection as I watch the news. Heart felt prayers, concerns and action for this war. Jan Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2022, at 4:26 PM, John C via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Thanks much, David! John Cock From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Monday, February 28, 2022 at 2:47 PM To: ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: D Dunn <dmdunn1@gmail.com> Subject: [Dialogue] Two Personal connections in Russia and Ukraine Hello colleagues. Background ICA Denver colleagues and others organized a Jean Houston Mystery School in 1990–1991. Three Russians visited the Mystery School one weekend and were introduced by their host in the US, Dr. Laura Dodson, a Denver Jungian analyst who had visited Russia to meet psychologists and teachers as Russian opened to the world in the 1980s. For reasons unknown to me at the time, I vowed to attend one of the [Virginia Satir] Family Camps—the second one, as it happens—organized by Laura and her new Russian colleagues. I was in Moscow the week before and during the attempted coup of August 19, 1991. I met a man at the family camp who was interested in facilitation methods. We discovered that both of us had been born on November 12: me in 1942, he in 1956. Alexey’s and my friendship has grown ever since, first by fax, then by email, then in each other’s homes, then by Skype and most recently by Zoom and WhatsApp. Connection 1. During the build up of Russian troops around Ukraine in recent weeks, Alexey and I talked at length about the build up of troops. I would say, “This is against international law.” Alexey would say, “But’s it’s complicated.” Both of us agreed we did not have access to all the facts. And then Russian troops invaded Ukraine. My friend emailed the next day: Subject: Ukraine I could not believe that it may happen. As well as many people in Russia. But it happened. I was wrong. Terrible. I replied: You are a dear and faithful friend. Now friends watch in horror. Connection 2. MacPaw is a private Ukrainian software company doing business all over the world. I’ve used two of its products for many years. This morning, Oleksandr Kosovan, Founder and CEO of MacPaw, sent a message about the current situation in Ukraine️. I do not know Mr. Kosovan, accept by his association with a modern technology company that I have appreciated for many years. His email contains a link to sites for information about Putin’s war on Ukraine. Mr. Kosovan wrote: We have selected for you a list of verified sources that objectively cover what is happening in Ukraine. Follow the links and draw your own conclusions. Find out the truth about the events in Ukraine️<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmacpaw.esclick.me%2FGodnQZuJy7mu&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5543c800be1a4f3e35e708d9fb0100cb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637816804009998495%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=DgV21CSoEnPPSqQhyo72JfEF3dPTKNoG5VuyHXBlkuI%3D&reserved=0> The screenshot attached below shows part of his message. Stay safe. Lobby for dealing seriously with Russian, protecting Ukraine, and being facilitative leaders and sources of funding for the European Union and NATO. I wish everyone well. David — [cid:DAA4528C-742B-4D13-A6E0-FCF91959BC47] "Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose" David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com<mailto:dmdunn1@gmail.com> [cid:EBCFAB05-AD63-496F-9773-5C12C8946268] _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
We should also remember our ICA Ukraine colleagues, including Svitlana Salamatova. I met her a few years ago at Greenrise during an ICA Archive event. She is working on a Ukrainian language edition of my book A Compassionate Civilization. She is the leader of the Geo-political Alliance of Ukrainian Women. These days, I am reminded of my time in Ukraine in 2003 on a UNDP decentralized governance mission. ............................................. Author page for my books: https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF Blogsite: https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/ Website: https://www.robertsonwork.com/ ________________________________ From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of David Dunn via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:46 PM To: ICA Dialogue Listserv <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: David Dunn <dmdunn1@gmail.com> Subject: [Dialogue] Two Personal connections in Russia and Ukraine Hello colleagues. Background ICA Denver colleagues and others organized a Jean Houston Mystery School in 1990–1991. Three Russians visited the Mystery School one weekend and were introduced by their host in the US, Dr. Laura Dodson, a Denver Jungian analyst who had visited Russia to meet psychologists and teachers as Russian opened to the world in the 1980s. For reasons unknown to me at the time, I vowed to attend one of the [Virginia Satir] Family Camps—the second one, as it happens—organized by Laura and her new Russian colleagues. I was in Moscow the week before and during the attempted coup of August 19, 1991. I met a man at the family camp who was interested in facilitation methods. We discovered that both of us had been born on November 12: me in 1942, he in 1956. Alexey’s and my friendship has grown ever since, first by fax, then by email, then in each other’s homes, then by Skype and most recently by Zoom and WhatsApp. Connection 1. During the build up of Russian troops around Ukraine in recent weeks, Alexey and I talked at length about the build up of troops. I would say, “This is against international law.” Alexey would say, “But’s it’s complicated.” Both of us agreed we did not have access to all the facts. And then Russian troops invaded Ukraine. My friend emailed the next day: Subject: Ukraine I could not believe that it may happen. As well as many people in Russia. But it happened. I was wrong. Terrible. I replied: You are a dear and faithful friend. Now friends watch in horror. Connection 2. MacPaw is a private Ukrainian software company doing business all over the world. I’ve used two of its products for many years. This morning, Oleksandr Kosovan, Founder and CEO of MacPaw, sent a message about the current situation in Ukraine️. I do not know Mr. Kosovan, accept by his association with a modern technology company that I have appreciated for many years. His email contains a link to sites for information about Putin’s war on Ukraine. Mr. Kosovan wrote: We have selected for you a list of verified sources that objectively cover what is happening in Ukraine. Follow the links and draw your own conclusions. Find out the truth about the events in Ukraine️<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmacpaw.esclick.me%2FGodnQZuJy7mu&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb8d1e37b0ec34b650cfa08d9faf31210%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637816744228042855%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qF%2BijnNB8gnICTeZA3lauGM3Yu0ajH4QM3zXiLYGBNc%3D&reserved=0> The screenshot attached below shows part of his message. Stay safe. Lobby for dealing seriously with Russian, protecting Ukraine, and being facilitative leaders and sources of funding for the European Union and NATO. I wish everyone well. David — [cid:DAA4528C-742B-4D13-A6E0-FCF91959BC47] "Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose" David Dunn 740 S Alton Way 9B Denver, CO 80247 720-314-5991 dmdunn1@gmail.com<mailto:dmdunn1@gmail.com> [cid:EBCFAB05-AD63-496F-9773-5C12C8946268]
And Oleh Shapovalov, who attended the ToP Network Annual Gathering in Omaha several years ago, and is a wonderful ICA:Ukraine colleague. I didn’t really think through how ToP methods are so empowering of democracy, until I met Mr. Shapovalov at that meeting. I hope and pray for them all, even Maks Chmerkovsky from “Dancing With The Stars” fame, who was arrested and now trying to get back to his wife and kids in America. I do think it’s best not to name these names on Facebook and similar platforms, due to the specter of retribution. Prayers for peace, Nancy Trask On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 5:36 PM Robertson Work via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
We should also remember our ICA Ukraine colleagues, including Svitlana Salamatova. I met her a few years ago at Greenrise during an ICA Archive event. She is working on a Ukrainian language edition of my book *A Compassionate Civilization*. She is the leader of the Geo-political Alliance of Ukrainian Women. These days, I am reminded of my time in Ukraine in 2003 on a UNDP decentralized governance mission.
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Author page for my books: https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF Blogsite: https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/ Website: https://www.robertsonwork.com/
------------------------------ *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of David Dunn via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 2:46 PM *To:* ICA Dialogue Listserv <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> *Cc:* David Dunn <dmdunn1@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Dialogue] Two Personal connections in Russia and Ukraine
Hello colleagues.
*Background* *ICA Denver colleagues and others organized a Jean Houston Mystery School in 1990–1991*. Three Russians visited the Mystery School one weekend and were introduced by their host in the US, Dr. Laura Dodson, a Denver Jungian analyst who had visited Russia to meet psychologists and teachers as Russian opened to the world in the 1980s. For reasons unknown to me at the time, I vowed to attend one of the [Virginia Satir] Family Camps—the second one, as it happens—organized by Laura and her new Russian colleagues.
*I was in Moscow the week before and during the attempted coup of August 19, 1991.* I met a man at the family camp who was interested in facilitation methods. We discovered that both of us had been born on November 12: me in 1942, he in 1956. Alexey’s and my friendship has grown ever since, first by fax, then by email, then in each other’s homes, then by Skype and most recently by Zoom and WhatsApp.
*Connection 1.* During the build up of Russian troops around Ukraine in recent weeks, Alexey and I talked at length about the build up of troops. I would say, “This is against international law.” Alexey would say, “But’s it’s complicated.” Both of us agreed we did not have access to all the facts. And then Russian troops invaded Ukraine. My friend emailed the next day:
Subject: Ukraine
*I could not believe that it may happen. As well as many people in Russia. But it happened. I was wrong. Terrible.*
I replied:
*You are a dear and faithful friend. Now friends watch in horror. *
*Connection 2.* MacPaw is a private Ukrainian software company doing business all over the world. I’ve used two of its products for many years. This morning, Oleksandr Kosovan, Founder and CEO of MacPaw, sent a message about the current situation in Ukraine️. I do not know Mr. Kosovan, accept by his association with a modern technology company that I have appreciated for many years. His email contains a link to sites for information about Putin’s war on Ukraine. Mr. Kosovan wrote:
*We have selected for you a list of verified sources that objectively cover what is happening in Ukraine. Follow the links and draw your own conclusions*. Find out the truth about the events in Ukraine️ <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmacpaw.esclick.me%2FGodnQZuJy7mu&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb8d1e37b0ec34b650cfa08d9faf31210%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637816744228042855%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=qF%2BijnNB8gnICTeZA3lauGM3Yu0ajH4QM3zXiLYGBNc%3D&reserved=0> The screenshot attached below shows part of his message.
Stay safe. Lobby for dealing seriously with Russian, protecting Ukraine, and being facilitative leaders and sources of funding for the European Union and NATO. I wish everyone well.
David
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"Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose"
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