Who is the “we” that is publishing it? Sounds like a good area for research Jim Wiegel “We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “ Stephen Hawking

On Nov 26, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Judy Lindblad via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

 Thank you for this and a Blessed Thanks Giving Time. I have just opened up some interest or a small can of worms by suggesting that the new Earth Care Magazine that we are publishing monthly might consider an edition of ways the Two Storey Universe perspective of some of our hymns, readings, and scripture effect Earth Care and our perception of the "World". Kathy Downey asked for more info and one gal had not heard the term. Any suggestions on clarifying. Our new Resident Associate Pastor is on board with pursuing such a topic and the need to move with care for people's strong feelings. What is the most helpful way to proceed in your experience? Grace and Peace, Judy

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On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 11:58 PM Ellie Stock via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Dear Folks,

Last Sunday, Thanksgiving Sunday (also the Reign of Christ in the Christian Liturgical Calendar), I led Second Presbyterian Church's (St. Louis) Sunday Forum Group, reflecting on Giving Thanks, the Spirit of Gratitude. During the week before the participants were invited to write down/keep a mini journal (list, words, poetry, art, etc.) of their experiences of gratitude each day.

The first 15 minutes of the session was prayer and context and the rest was conversation reflecting on our experiences of gratitude.

As we participate on this nation's observance of Thanksgiving, I thought I would share this session with you for your own refection and observations of your experiences of gratitude. So, attached is a synopsis of the session.

Giving deep thanks for all of you and our years of collegiality. Hope you all have a beautiful day.

Blessings!

Ellie

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So some work here has been on going back to Greek words (not always the easiest piece) and looking at what’s underlying them originally. A (fairly conservative) source is BlueLetter Bible. Things like: aphiemi – translated as ‘forgiveness’ – literally is ‘letting go, not holding on.’ Metanoia – translated as ‘repentance’ literally is ‘new mind’ (meta – new – like new form in butterfly metamorphosis and nous – mind). Alethia – translated as ‘truth’ literally: unclouded (a as negative, lethe as cloud). Basileia – translated as ‘kingdom’ – is more akin to ‘foundationing’ with the root of bas as in foot – footing. Ouranos – translated as ‘heaven’ – suggests the widest, most inclusive context (as seen from high above ground as on a mountain). Hamartia – translated as ‘sin’ – is literally ‘missing the mark’ – or ‘off the target.’ Ha is the negative, martia (where we get martial) is the target or the mark. Aion – translated as ‘eternal’ – is actually more like ‘age’ – Age of iron, Stone age – and doesn’t have the sense of chronological time. So ‘getting to heaven’ – getting to the widest possible context. Eternal life: life either in the age of the foundationing of God, or the age of the foundationing of corrective fire (see Matthew’s use of it). These are phenomenological experiences from the inside – getting one’s balloon burst? Discovering the expanded heart of Kaz? Of course, none of this may make any sense at all! FWIW Bill From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> On Behalf Of Judy Lindblad via Dialogue Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 7:52 AM To: Ellie Stock <elliestock@aol.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Judy Lindblad <nj.lindblad@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Reflecting on Giving Thanks, the Spirit of Gratitude Thank you for this and a Blessed Thanks Giving Time. I have just opened up some interest or a small can of worms by suggesting that the new Earth Care Magazine that we are publishing monthly might consider an edition of ways the Two Storey Universe perspective of some of our hymns, readings, and scripture effect Earth Care and our perception of the "World". Kathy Downey asked for more info and one gal had not heard the term. Any suggestions on clarifying. Our new Resident Associate Pastor is on board with pursuing such a topic and the need to move with care for people's strong feelings. What is the most helpful way to proceed in your experience? Grace and Peace, Judy On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 11:58 PM Ellie Stock via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote: Dear Folks, Last Sunday, Thanksgiving Sunday (also the Reign of Christ in the Christian Liturgical Calendar), I led Second Presbyterian Church's (St. Louis) Sunday Forum Group, reflecting on Giving Thanks, the Spirit of Gratitude. During the week before the participants were invited to write down/keep a mini journal (list, words, poetry, art, etc.) of their experiences of gratitude each day. The first 15 minutes of the session was prayer and context and the rest was conversation reflecting on our experiences of gratitude. As we participate on this nation's observance of Thanksgiving, I thought I would share this session with you for your own refection and observations of your experiences of gratitude. So, attached is a synopsis of the session. Giving deep thanks for all of you and our years of collegiality. Hope you all have a beautiful day. Blessings! Ellie <https://s.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/emoji/blush.png> elliestock@aol.com <mailto:elliestock@aol.com> _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: This transmission may contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally privileged and proprietary and may be subject to protection under the law, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you