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Almost anonymous, but pretty easy to narrow down! Great story, however, and very affirmative. Clare W From: James Wiegel via Dialogue Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:31 AM To: Judith Wiegel ; Order Ecumenical Community ; Colleague Dialogue Cc: James Wiegel Subject: [Dialogue] Recent article in Chicago Magazine Growing Up in the Order Growing Up in the Order Now all but forgotten, an obscure religious commune took over a building in Uptown and tried to change the world... Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
A delightful read! Thanks for sending it, Clare Cynthia Vance -----Original Message----- From: Clare Whitney via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> To: James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: cla9ken8 <cla9ken8@ecentral.com> Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 3:56 pm Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Recent article in Chicago Magazine Almost anonymous, but pretty easy to narrow down! Great story, however, and very affirmative. Clare W From: James Wiegel via Dialogue Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:31 AM To: Judith Wiegel ; Order Ecumenical Community ; Colleague Dialogue Cc: James Wiegel Subject: [Dialogue] Recent article in Chicago Magazine Growing Up in the Order Growing Up in the Order Now all but forgotten, an obscure religious commune took over a building in Uptown and tried to change the world... Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Yes, and weren’t they beautiful then. Would love to see them now. Lynda From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Reply-To: ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 3:56 PM To: Jim and Judy Weigle <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>, ICA Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: C&K Whitney <cla9ken8@ecentral.com> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Recent article in Chicago Magazine Almost anonymous, but pretty easy to narrow down! Great story, however, and very affirmative. Clare W From: James Wiegel via Dialogue Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:31 AM To: Judith Wiegel ; Order Ecumenical Community ; Colleague Dialogue Cc: James Wiegel Subject: [Dialogue] Recent article in Chicago Magazine Growing Up in the Order<http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2018/Growing-Up-in-the-Order/> Growing Up in the Order Now all but forgotten, an obscure religious commune took over a building in Uptown and tried to change the world... Jim Wiegel<http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123> “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com<http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/> ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Asha stopped by a few weeks ago and she is brilliant and beautiful! Paula On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Lynda C via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Yes, and weren’t they beautiful then. Would love to see them now. Lynda
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Almost anonymous, but pretty easy to narrow down! Great story, however, and very affirmative. Clare W
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Growing Up in the Order <http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2018/Growing-Up-in-the-Order/>
Growing Up in the Order
Now all but forgotten, an obscure religious commune took over a building in Uptown and tried to change the world...
Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis
401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
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-- Paula “Is it logical that two people can disagree and that both can be right? It's not logical: it's psychological. And it's very real.” ― Stephen R. Covey <https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1538.Stephen_R_Covey>
Colleagues 'in the way', I have told this story a few times. Following my cataclysmic RS1 in October of ’67 [David McCleskey - Dick & Linda Alton were POs (Participant Observers)], I attended an SDS (Students of a Democratic Society) conference in Chicago that December. I was a leader in the Canadian equivalent, SUPA (Student’s Union for Peace Action). After the conference, I visited 3444 Congress Parkway for a day. I was met by Tim Lush and taken on a tour. A significant part of that time occurred in the basement, where the trash got taken out. There, I met a very fashionable women by the name of Joyce Townley. She was obviously a suburbanite, covered with a smock, but with a colourful scarf and blouse. What a charming woman! And there she was, operating a hoist with oil barrels full of trash. At that time, immersed in the 60s, as a committed socialist, agent of change and one engaged in many aspects of 60s politics and social change, I knew that part of the puzzle depended on the engagement of sophisticated middle class folks if real change were to occur. It wasn’t simply going to be a revolution of the oppressed. And there she was! For me it was a sign. I returned May 29, 1968. Here’s to Joyce Townley the grandmother. With warmth and affection and… Grace & Peace Ken On Mar 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Growing Up in the Order <http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2018/Growing-Up-in-the-Order/> Growing Up in the Order Now all but forgotten, an obscure religious commune took over a building in Uptown and tried to change the world... <http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2018/Growing-Up-in-the-Order/> Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123> “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com <mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com <http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/>_______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Ken, A great testimony! These stories are precious. Cynthia Vance -----Original Message----- From: Ken Fisher via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> To: Jim & Judy Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Judith Wiegel <judithwiegel@yahoo.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2018 10:36 pm Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Recent article in Chicago Magazine Colleagues 'in the way', I have told this story a few times. Following my cataclysmic RS1 in October of ’67 [David McCleskey - Dick & Linda Alton were POs (Participant Observers)], I attended an SDS (Students of a Democratic Society) conference in Chicago that December. I was a leader in the Canadian equivalent, SUPA (Student’s Union for Peace Action). After the conference, I visited 3444 Congress Parkway for a day. I was met by Tim Lush and taken on a tour. A significant part of that time occurred in the basement, where the trash got taken out. There, I met a very fashionable women by the name of Joyce Townley. She was obviously a suburbanite, covered with a smock, but with a colourful scarf and blouse. What a charming woman! And there she was, operating a hoist with oil barrels full of trash. At that time, immersed in the 60s, as a committed socialist, agent of change and one engaged in many aspects of 60s politics and social change, I knew that part of the puzzle depended on the engagement of sophisticated middle class folks if real change were to occur. It wasn’t simply going to be a revolution of the oppressed. And there she was! For me it was a sign. I returned May 29, 1968. Here’s to Joyce Townley the grandmother. With warmth and affection and… Grace & Peace Ken On Mar 15, 2018, at 1:31 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Growing Up in the Order Growing Up in the Order Now all but forgotten, an obscure religious commune took over a building in Uptown and tried to change the world... Jim Wiegel “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky." Nikos Kazantzakis 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
I’m using the Bug Model for a book I’m reviewing. I remember enough to be able to describe the four legs. Can anyone tell me what the content of ‘Discipline’ (at the centre of the bug) was supposed to be? If desired, I could post the review when it is finished. Grace and Peace, Bud Tillinghast LCX SF
On 24 Mar 2018, at 2:07 pm, Cynthia Vance via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Colleagues 'in the way',
I have told this story a few times.
Following my cataclysmic RS1 in October of ’67 [David McCleskey - Dick & Linda Alton were POs (Participant Observers)], I attended an SDS (Students of a Democratic Society) conference in Chicago that December. I was a leader in the Canadian equivalent, SUPA (Student’s Union for Peace Action). After the conference, I visited 3444 Congress Parkway for a day. I was met by Tim Lush and taken on a tour. A significant part of that time occurred in the basement, where the trash got taken out. There, I met a very fashionable women by the name of Joyce Townley. She was obviously a suburbanite, covered with a smock, but with a colourful scarf and blouse. What a charming woman! And there she was, operating a hoist with oil barrels full of trash.
At that time, immersed in the 60s, as a committed socialist, agent of change and one engaged in many aspects of 60s politics and social change, I knew that part of the puzzle depended on the engagement of sophisticated middle class folks if real change were to occur. It wasn’t simply going to be a revolution of the oppressed.
And there she was! For me it was a sign. I returned May 29, 1968.
Here’s to Joyce Townley the grandmother.
With warmth and affection and…
Grace & Peace
Ken
This is a link to the Local Congregation course manual RSIIIa in wedgeblade.net. Check out the outline and illustrations for the Discipline Lecture. Hope this helps. https://wedgeblade.net/gold_path/data/ldrt/100676.htm Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com Loneliness does not come from having no people around you. But from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to you. Carl Jung
On Mar 25, 2018, at 01:17, H. A. Tillinghast via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I’m using the Bug Model for a book I’m reviewing. I remember enough to be able to describe the four legs. Can anyone tell me what the content of ‘Discipline’ (at the centre of the bug) was supposed to be? If desired, I could post the review when it is finished.
Grace and Peace,
Bud Tillinghast LCX SF
On 24 Mar 2018, at 2:07 pm, Cynthia Vance via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Colleagues 'in the way',
I have told this story a few times.
Following my cataclysmic RS1 in October of ’67 [David McCleskey - Dick & Linda Alton were POs (Participant Observers)], I attended an SDS (Students of a Democratic Society) conference in Chicago that December. I was a leader in the Canadian equivalent, SUPA (Student’s Union for Peace Action). After the conference, I visited 3444 Congress Parkway for a day. I was met by Tim Lush and taken on a tour. A significant part of that time occurred in the basement, where the trash got taken out. There, I met a very fashionable women by the name of Joyce Townley. She was obviously a suburbanite, covered with a smock, but with a colourful scarf and blouse. What a charming woman! And there she was, operating a hoist with oil barrels full of trash.
At that time, immersed in the 60s, as a committed socialist, agent of change and one engaged in many aspects of 60s politics and social change, I knew that part of the puzzle depended on the engagement of sophisticated middle class folks if real change were to occur. It wasn’t simply going to be a revolution of the oppressed.
And there she was! For me it was a sign. I returned May 29, 1968.
Here’s to Joyce Townley the grandmother.
With warmth and affection and…
Grace & Peace
Ken
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There is a short section on The Bug Model in the 2017 revised version of the Chronological History, pp 6 & 7. See link https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/20197.pdf If you want to purchase the book, contact Fara Taylor at the ICA ftaylor@ica-usa.org or LuLu http://www.lulu.com/shop/beret-e-griffith/a-chronological-history-of-the- ecumenical-institute-and-the-institute-of-cultural-affairs- 19521988/paperback/product-23524496.html Beret On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:59 AM, James Wiegel via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
This is a link to the Local Congregation course manual RSIIIa in wedgeblade.net. Check out the outline and illustrations for the Discipline Lecture. Hope this helps. https://wedgeblade.net/gold_path/data/ldrt/100676.htm
Jim Wiegel 401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353 Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler@gmail.com> www.partnersinparticipation.com
Loneliness does not come from having no people around you. But from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to you. Carl Jung
On Mar 25, 2018, at 01:17, H. A. Tillinghast via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I’m using the Bug Model for a book I’m reviewing. I remember enough to be able to describe the four legs. Can anyone tell me what the content of ‘Discipline’ (at the centre of the bug) was supposed to be? If desired, I could post the review when it is finished.
Grace and Peace,
Bud Tillinghast LCX SF
On 24 Mar 2018, at 2:07 pm, Cynthia Vance via Dialogue < dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Colleagues 'in the way',
I have told this story a few times.
Following my cataclysmic RS1 in October of ’67 [David McCleskey - Dick & Linda Alton were POs (Participant Observers)], I attended an SDS (Students of a Democratic Society) conference in Chicago that December. I was a leader in the Canadian equivalent, SUPA (Student’s Union for Peace Action). After the conference, I visited 3444 Congress Parkway for a day. I was met by Tim Lush and taken on a tour. A significant part of that time occurred in the basement, where the trash got taken out. There, I met a very fashionable women by the name of Joyce Townley. She was obviously a suburbanite, covered with a smock, but with a colourful scarf and blouse. What a charming woman! And there she was, operating a hoist with oil barrels full of trash.
At that time, immersed in the 60s, as a committed socialist, agent of change and one engaged in many aspects of 60s politics and social change, I knew that part of the puzzle depended on the engagement of sophisticated middle class folks if real change were to occur. It wasn’t simply going to be a revolution of the oppressed.
And there she was! For me it was a sign. I returned May 29, 1968.
Here’s to Joyce Townley the grandmother.
With warmth and affection and…
Grace & Peace
Ken
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