Dittos--prayers for India and so many nations that are now strugging without vaccines.  Hope the US will share vaccines and also encourage the waiving of patents so they can be more easily, equitably, and less expensively shared with other countries that are in dire need of yhe vaccines. Ellieelliestock@aol.com On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 05:21:29 AM CDT, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: I guess I started this little thread with the picture of India and the numbers . . .  Wanting to say I am in prayer for that great country and its people (those I have known and those I have not)— and for all of us as we continue to journey through this pandemic — I, too, am anxious and uncertain and surrounded by anxiety and uncertainty here in Tolleson, Arizona, both face to face and in cyberspace.  Have we heard from colleagues there? Would that we had the care in all aspects that dear Tim demonstrates on these lists! Jim Wiegel “We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “       Stephen Hawking On Apr 27, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Sharon Fisher via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Thanks, Tim! On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 1:29 PM Mary Kurian D'Souza via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Thank you Tim.I support your posture. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:07 AM Timothy Wegner via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: David, please don't spread vaccination misinformation on the list. It's actually NOT that hard to know what to believe if you make some effort. A simple google search suffices. I'm glad you got your vaccination. There actually is some peer reviewed science about Vitamin D helping providing some help to the immune system, but it's not a miracle cure or preventative. As far as your dubious Dr. Cole, here's what Factcheck.org says: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/scicheck-idaho-doctor-makes-baseless-claim... As list moderator, I hereby declare debates about vaccine efficacy off topic. Please no more, and feel free to email me privately. The problem is misinformation requires ten times the effort to refute as it takes to spread. We don't need that here. That said, I don't really want to ban helpful information on staying safe and getting vaccinated, though I expect our aging list members are pretty well along with being vaccinated. (signed) Tim, who moderates this list ever so rarely, but whose buttons were pushed by the ant-vax video David posted.  On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 11:11 PM David Yost via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Dr. Cole is a Mayo Clinic trained Board Certified Pathologist.  https://www.bitchute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/ I would encourage you to watch this  as Dr. Cole says "the shot" is not really a vaccination, but that is what they want us to to think it is. Vitamin D may provide even better protection against a number of Viruses and any variant strains.  Then there is Ivermectin - I am going to see how to get a prescription for that as well. I went ahead and got my "First Shot" (Moderna) on 4-20-21. So far so good, I am also taking Vitamin D3. Hard to know what to believe.-- On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 1:03 PM W. J. via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: More than you ever wanted to know about ivermectin.MarshallIvermectin and Covid-19: how a cheap antiparasitic became political | | | | | | | | | | | Ivermectin and Covid-19: how a cheap antiparasitic became political The common antiparasitic ivermectin is being touted as a miracle Covid-19 cure worldwide, despite health authori... | | | On Sunday, April 25, 2021, 11:07:13 AM PDT, Jack Gilles via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Sarah, I can give you feedback. I have a dear friend who lives in Mumbai,in  one of the further suburbs. She was trying to go get her second shot tomorrow and has had to cancel. She says the whole thing is a Living Hell. Those numbers are the number of cases, not deaths. But the death rate is climbing. A city the size of New Delhi is down to 6 beds available for Covid patients. There are no jobs for a huge migrant population that work in the service industry. Having lived there for 22 years I can attest to how many and how well it functioned. Then Covid came and because they don’t have savings they are heading home. But trains now have limits to how many can travel due to Covid (with masks). You can see video of hundreds of cars sidelined because they cannot be used. Many people from other States in the country are reversing the journey and walking across the country.  The Prime Minister is in deep trouble because his measures are not working. I live in Mexico now and India was the main source for much of its vaccines. India has stopped all exports. I am 81 and still can’t get a shot here in Nayarit. The good news is that we are quite separated from other houses, but the local village is not. It will just be a matter of time before the virus will strike here. Right now they are not vaccinating the whole population, only if you are over 60 years of age.  There is lots more, but I hope that gives you a clearer picture. Peace, Jack On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:52 PM, Sarah H. Buss via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: Is this map # of deaths, cases or what? My homework and meditation recommendations: send all available one dose Johnson & Johnson to India (and perhaps to US southern border). Additionally , Massive emergency and more easily implemented treatment might be ivermectin. A recent video of global panel of doctors suggests that ivermectin might be a safe and effective treatment for Covid.  I am unable to type conversations on the subject but would welcome feedback.Sarah  Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2021, at 12:06 PM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: <1619370349826blob.jpg> Jim Wiegel   Theunknown is what is.  And to be frightened of it is what sends everybodyscurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, allthat.  Unknown is what is.  Accept that it's unknown, and it's plainsailing.    John Lennon 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353 623-363-3277 jfwiegel@yahoo.com www.partnersinparticipation.com <1619370349826blob.jpg>_______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ OE mailing list OE@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net -- Grace & Peace David Yost 720-365-6698 "What life means to us is determined not so much by what life brings to us as by the attitude we bring to life; not so much by what happens to us as our reaction to what happens". 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