Re: [Dialogue] code list
Dear Darrell and other colleagues, In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?" The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer. At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election." The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical. As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways. I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days. Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question. Marilyn Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095 On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net> writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like �effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.� Another paraphrased was �care is rendered structurally.� Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker � in Phoenix where it will be 106F today.
Thanks Marilyn. That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not. Grace & Peace John At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
 Dear Darrell and other colleagues,
In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?"
The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer.
At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election."
The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical.
As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways.
I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days.
Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question.
Marilyn
Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095
On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <<mailto:darrell66@earthlink.net>darrell66@earthlink.net> writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like âeffectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.â Another paraphrased was âcare is rendered structurally.â Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today.
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Please send me a copy as well From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps@pc.jaring.my Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM To: Colleague Dialogue Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list Thanks Marilyn. That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not. Grace & Peace John At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:  Dear Darrell and other colleagues, In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?" The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer. At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election." The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical. As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways. I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days. Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question. Marilyn Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095 On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today. _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Can't we post the document on the Repository and we can all access it rather than email copies to everyone? Jack On May 16, 2012, at 7:54 AM, M George Walters wrote:
Please send me a copy as well
From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps@pc.jaring.my Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM To: Colleague Dialogue Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list
Thanks Marilyn.
That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not.
Grace & Peace
John
At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
 Dear Darrell and other colleagues,
In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?"
The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer.
At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election."
The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical.
As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways.
I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days.
Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question.
Marilyn
Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095
On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today.
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Jack, David Walters posted the link already. Sunny Sunny Walker SunWalker Enterprises 303-587-3017 (cell) 303-671-0704 (home/office) sunwalker@comcast.net Aurora, CO No mattter how far you've gone down the wrong road, turn back. ~ Turkish Proverb _____ From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Jack Gilles Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:14 AM To: Colleague Dialogue Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list Can't we post the document on the Repository and we can all access it rather than email copies to everyone? Jack On May 16, 2012, at 7:54 AM, M George Walters wrote: Please send me a copy as well From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps@pc.jaring.my Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM To: Colleague Dialogue Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list Thanks Marilyn. That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not. Grace & Peace John At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:  Dear Darrell and other colleagues, In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?" The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer. At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election." The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical. As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways. I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days. Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question. Marilyn Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095 On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today. _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
I have forgotten how to access the Repository. Would someone please send me that information. Thanks. Priscilla Wilson On May 16, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Jack Gilles wrote:
Can't we post the document on the Repository and we can all access it rather than email copies to everyone?
Jack On May 16, 2012, at 7:54 AM, M George Walters wrote:
Please send me a copy as well
From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps@pc.jaring.my Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM To: Colleague Dialogue Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list
Thanks Marilyn.
That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not.
Grace & Peace
John
At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
 Dear Darrell and other colleagues,
In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?"
The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer.
At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election."
The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical.
As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways.
I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days.
Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question.
Marilyn
Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095
On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today.
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The Repository can be reached at http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view One can read it without signing in. To enter data one needs to register. Len On 5/16/2012 7:22 AM, Wilson Priscilla wrote:
I have forgotten how to access the Repository. Would someone please send me that information. Thanks. Priscilla Wilson
On May 16, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Jack Gilles wrote:
Can't we post the document on the Repository and we can all access it rather than email copies to everyone?
Jack On May 16, 2012, at 7:54 AM, M George Walters wrote:
Please send me a copy as well *From:* dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] *On Behalf Of *jlepps@pc.jaring.my <mailto:jlepps@pc.jaring.my> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM *To:* Colleague Dialogue *Subject:* Re: [Dialogue] code list Thanks Marilyn.
That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not.
Grace & Peace
John
At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
 Dear Darrell and other colleagues,
In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?"
The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer.
At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election."
The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical.
As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways.
I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days.
Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question.
Marilyn
Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095
On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net <mailto:darrell66@earthlink.net> > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today.
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Certainly one of the sources for this is the "Corporateness" lecture. It was a 4x4 and is probably also in the archives somewhere. In my memory, someone delivered it in collegium once a year or so. \\/ - - - - - - - - - - Wayne Nelson wnelson@ica-associates.ca O - 416-691-2316 M - 647-229-6910 On 2012-05-16, at 11:49 AM, Len Hockley wrote:
The Repository can be reached at http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view
One can read it without signing in. To enter data one needs to register.
Len
On 5/16/2012 7:22 AM, Wilson Priscilla wrote:
I have forgotten how to access the Repository. Would someone please send me that information. Thanks. Priscilla Wilson
On May 16, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Jack Gilles wrote:
Can't we post the document on the Repository and we can all access it rather than email copies to everyone?
Jack On May 16, 2012, at 7:54 AM, M George Walters wrote:
Please send me a copy as well
From: dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of jlepps@pc.jaring.my Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM To: Colleague Dialogue Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list
Thanks Marilyn.
That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not.
Grace & Peace
John
At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
 Dear Darrell and other colleagues,
In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?"
The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer.
At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election."
The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical.
As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways.
I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days.
Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question.
Marilyn
Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095
On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today.
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Will do! Len On 5/16/2012 7:13 AM, Jack Gilles wrote:
Can't we post the document on the Repository and we can all access it rather than email copies to everyone?
Jack On May 16, 2012, at 7:54 AM, M George Walters wrote:
Please send me a copy as well *From:* dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> [mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] *On Behalf Of *jlepps@pc.jaring.my <mailto:jlepps@pc.jaring.my> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:15 PM *To:* Colleague Dialogue *Subject:* Re: [Dialogue] code list Thanks Marilyn.
That was indeed a great experience -- recording the polity we were living. Do you still have a copy of the document? Regretfully I do not.
Grace & Peace
John
At 07:42 PM 5/15/2012, you wrote:
 Dear Darrell and other colleagues,
In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?"
The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer.
At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election."
The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical.
As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways.
I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days.
Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question.
Marilyn
Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095
On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net <mailto:darrell66@earthlink.net> > writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.†Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.†Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it willl be 106F today.
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Thank you, Marilyn, for sharing this with all of us! This provides a window into a creative task at an important time in the history of O:E. Did you say this Polity Document is on the Golden Pathways CD? Janice Ulangca ----- Original Message ----- From: marilyncrocker@juno.com To: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Cc: dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Dialogue] code list Dear Darrell and other colleagues, In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?" The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer. At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election." The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical. As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways. I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days. Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question. Marilyn Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095 On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net> writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.” Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.” Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it will be 106F today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
Here is the list that I requested, from Paula Philbrook. Darrell THE 20 PRINCIPLES OF CORPORATENESS 1. Corporateness grows out of a mutual calling. 2. Covenant and discipline sustain community. 3. Regular accountability of each member is necessary. 4. Absolution is that without which corporateness fails. 5. Each member has a gift to be developed and offered. 6. Everyone is responsible for the whole mission. 7. Worship of God by whatever name is the most important act of the community. 8. The community has one mission, not many. 9. Sacrificial commitment of time and resources is crucial. 10. Care is provided structurally. 11. The power is in the center of the table. 12. Decisions are made by consensus, not by majority vote. 13. Equity, not equality, is the key to fairness. 14. Effectiveness, not efficiency, is the hallmark of service. 15. The first response is always yes. 16. Indirection is preferred to direct encounter. 17. Only criticize with an alternative model to offer. 18. Only decide or act as a team of two or more. 19. The external situation is never the real problem. 20. The community has local autonomy and global responsibility. Dear Darrell and other colleagues, In the spring and summer of 1977 I was part of a small task force commissioned by JWM to "write up our Order Polity." He fully intended to present this, once vetted by him, later that year, because when we presented the final document to him, two months before he died, his question was, "Can I bring this to Rome?" The task force was a wonderful mix -- David Morton, a brilliant writer and thinker outside the box; John Epps, a solid theologian; Lyn Matthews, a profound and mature keeper of the memory for decades; Isobel Bishop, one of the first leaders of the movement in Australia, the continent where our work first began to manifest relevance; and me, Marilyn Crocker, member of the OE since 1968 -- and whose credentials others than I can offer. At that time we five were also functioning as the Global Panchayat, whose universal roles were to "guard the comprehensive; defend the deeps; and watch the election." The Polity Document we compiled, on behalf of the OE, was 112 pages. The statements you requested can be found on pages 54 - 62, and are entitled the 24 Classic Principles of the Order Ecumenical. As this was one of the most focused, and internally vetted (thanks to JWM) efforts to "document" our polity experiment, I am sorry you and others may not be able to access it on Golden Pathways. I thank my beloved partners in that wondrous six month adventure, David, John, Isobel -- and Lyn -- and of course, Joe. When Bishop Jim, Joe's brother, visited with us here in Maine six or so years ago, he asked me for a copy of the "Polity Document." I was happy I had an extra copy and could pass it along. I imagine he, if anyone, could appreciate how both the UMC polity, and the collaborative modes of so many global civilizations all conspired to shape "who we were" in those wonderful days. Grace and peace to you, Darrell, and thank you for asking your important question. Marilyn Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker 123 Sanborn Road West Newfield, ME 04095 On Tue, 15 May 2012 06:32:18 -0700 "darrell walker" <darrell66@earthlink.net> writes: At some point in the far-distant past, I remember a code, a list of twenty or so statements of foundational beliefs of the Order. One of the statements went something like “effectiveness, not efficiency, is the mark of our work.” Another paraphrased was “care is rendered structurally.” Does anyone recall (and have a copy) of the list I am referring to. If so, I would like to have a copy. Darrell Walker – in Phoenix where it will be 106F today. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Dialogue mailing list Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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darrell walker -
Jack Gilles -
Janice Ulangca -
jlepps＠pc.jaring.my -
Len Hockley -
M George Walters -
marilyncrocker＠juno.com -
Sunny Walker -
Wayne Nelson -
Wilson Priscilla