My immediate thought is that it’s related the same way that any other construct is related to ‘the gospel.’ The underlying ‘yes’ that penetrates illusions (hamartia – translated as ‘sin’ – literally means to miss the mark), and calls for new mindedness (metanoia translated as ‘repent’ is literally ‘new mind’) and leads to compassion and responsibility to God for all things is the presence in all things. The ‘other world’ is the language we used to describe the range of consciousness and experiences in which we either trust in that ‘yes,’ or do not.
Grounding that in a child’s death, or the political changes around us, or in Kaz’s poetry is not the same as setting litmus test boundaries for the legalistic use of symbolic language that fits a procrustean bed of formal categories.
FWIW.
Bill
From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> On Behalf Of James Wiegel via Dialogue
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2025 9:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [Dialogue] 2 questions about the other world in the midst of this world
Bud asked ( and Jim dodged) this question: "How is the claim of "encountering another world” related to the Gospel?"
Anyone??
I am still hoping for a recording of “The Mys’try is Everywhere”
Anyone?
Jim Wiegel
“…the long work
of turning their lives
into a celebration
is not easy. Come and let us talk“.
The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
On Apr 12, 2025, at 8:15 AM, rev.bud@mac.com wrote:
"How is the claim of "encountering another world” related to the Gospel?"