Umm, just a guess, but I think they are talking about the ‘second coming,’ post-resurrection in the story.  Check out the Apostle’s Creed, etc.  The construct of history in the classical confessons has an endpoint.  Interestingly, the word for ‘end’ in Greek is the same as ‘purpose,’ and the same as ‘perfect’ or ‘finished’ – telos.  Where we get teleology or – well, what is your end purpose? 

 

We can talk about the perspective that the end/purpose of history is grace, transparency, compassion, forgiveness, responsibility – no matter what it looks like now.  ‘eschatology’ comes from the Ancient Greek words éschatos ("last") and -logía ("the study of").  Last can also mean ‘ultimate.’

 

FWIW

 

Bill Schlesinger

 

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Someone said, “the babe in the manger was the man on the cross.” Is that what you mean by coming again?



On Jan 9, 2025, at 9:55 AM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

By the way, is the babe in the manger you mentioned coming again??

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On Jan 8, 2025, at 7:41 PM, Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:



Yes, but the good seeds show up at the end- it takes time for them to show up--took a babe in the manager.

 

On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 6:37 PM James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Are those the ones where mean people are in charge??  I dont like scary books

Jim Wiegel

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of turning their lives
into a celebration
is not easy. Come and let us talk“. 

The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver



On Jan 8, 2025, at 3:11 PM, Doug Druckenmiller <ddrucken@gmail.com> wrote:

Octavia Butler's "Earthseed" series, "Parable of the Sower, and "Parable of the Talents".

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