Thank for re-posting - they were our reading/conversation at dinner today.
Ellen Rebstock

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:19 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
truth in re-posting.  The two poems I sent around came to me on Facebook this morning.  From Elizabeth Landers Engleman and Carol Poole.  So nice to have friends . . .
 
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To: James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>
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Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Some poems

Thank you, Jim.  These poems add to my armor as I pray for courage.  I will share them with my local groups.
Nancy Trask


From: "James Wiegel via OE" <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>
To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@wedgeblade.net>, "Order Ecumenical Community" <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:05:34 AM
Subject: [Oe List ...] Some poems

"TWO POEMS FROM THIS MORNING

A Ritual to Read to Each Other" 
by William Stafford

If you don't know the kind of person I am 
and I don't know the kind of person you are 
a pattern that others made may prevail in the
           world 
and following the wrong god home we may miss
           our star.

For there is many a small betrayal in the mind, 
a shrug that lets the fragile sequence break 
sending with shouts the horrible errors of
          childhood 
storming out to play through the broken dike.

And as elephants parade holding each
          elephant's tail, 
but if one wanders the circus won't find the
          park, 
I call it cruel and maybe the root of all cruelty 
to know what occurs but not recognize the fact.

And so I appeal to a voice, to something
         shadowy, 
a remote important region in all who talk: 
though we could fool each other, we should
         consider—
lest the parade of our mutual life get lost in the
dark.

For it is important that awake people be awake,
or a breaking line may discourage them back to
          sleep; 
the signals we give — yes or no, or maybe —
should be clear: the darkness around us is deep.


Deeply grateful to Helen Gerhardt for this:  ............................                                        I know, I know
If you could go back you
would walk with Jesus
You would march with King
Maybe assassinate Hitler
At least hide Jews in your basement
It would all be clear to you
But people then, just like you
were baffled, had bills
to pay and children they didn’t
understand and they too
were so desperate for normalcy
they made anything normal
Even turning everything inside out
Even killing, and killing, and it’s easy
for turning the other cheek
to be looking the other way, for walking
to be talking, and they hid
in their houses
and watched it on television, when they had television,
and wrung their hands
or didn’t, and your hands
are just like theirs. Lined, permeable,
small, and you
would follow Caesar, and quote McCarthy, and Hoover, and you would want
to make Germany great again
Because you are afraid, and your
parents are sick, and your
job pays s@$t and where’s your
dignity? Just a little dignity and those kids sitting down in the highway,
and chaining themselves to
buildings, what’s their f@*#king
 problem? And that kid
That’s King. And this is Selma. And Berlin. And Jerusalem. And now
is when they need you to be brave.
Now
is when we need you to go back
and forget everything you know
and give up the things you’re chained to
and make it look so easy in your
grandkids’ history books (they should still have them, kinehora)
Now
is when it will all be clear to them.
~Danny Bryck



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