Guess our eschatalogical hero got it wrong!  Should have put Pontius Pilate away!

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM, R Williams <rcwmbw@yahoo.com> wrote:
Calls to mind the phrase out of the Patton monologue, "Your job is not to die for your country..."
 
"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."
-Martin Buber (adapted)
From: William Schlesinger <pvida3607@gmail.com>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Quote from Bonhoeffer

Of course, sometimes the coming generation needs to see people going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat!  Or at least, taking the hit of what seems like certain defeat, and disclosing that certain defeat isn't all it's cracked up to be...

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Terry Bergdall <bergdall2@gmail.com> wrote:
"To talk of going down fighting like heroes in the face of certain defeat is not really heroic at all, but merely a refusal to face the future. The ultimate question for a responsible man to ask is not how he is to extricate himself heroically from the affair, but how the coming generation is to live."

I believe this is from "After Ten Years" in Letters and Papers from Prison. Terry

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:50 AM, George Holcombe <geowanda@earthlink.net> wrote:
What was that quote from Bonhoeffer a few days ago about lost causes, or going down with the ship, something like that.  I was trying to look it up and couldn't find it.

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