<div dir="auto">One List - Great!<div dir="auto">Beret Griffith </div><div dir="auto">& Paul Noah <a href="mailto:Noah.pnoah@gmail.com">Noah.pnoah@gmail.com</a> </div><div dir="auto"><a href="mailto:Beretgriffith@gmail.com">Beretgriffith@gmail.com</a></div><div dir="auto">Thankyou</div><div dir="auto">Beret</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:36 PM Beret Griffith <<a href="mailto:beretgriffith@gmail.com">beretgriffith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">O:E Dialogue combo will work for Paul Noah and myself. We appreciat opportunity for continuing colleague contact.<div dir="auto">Beret & Paul</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:22 PM Elsa Bengel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest and vision. </div><div dir="auto">Elsa Bengel</div><div><br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from Gmail Mobile</div></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:38 PM <<a href="mailto:oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send OE mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing<br>
lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)<br>
2. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing<br>
lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)<br>
3. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing<br>
lists, input requested (David Marshall)<br>
4. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing<br>
lists, input requested (David Marshall)<br>
5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
requested (Timothy Wegner)<br>
6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
requested (Ken Fisher)<br>
7. 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy<br>
Wegner) (Richard and Maria Maguire)<br>
8. Re: 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400<br>
From: Shelley Hahn <<a href="mailto:shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
Cc: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Order<br>
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Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of<br>
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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one<br>
email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually<br>
more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a<br>
name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to<br>
stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?<br>
<br>
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!<br>
<br>
Fond regards,<br>
Shelley Hahn<br>
<br>
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <<br>
<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of<br>
> losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I<br>
> can offer no helpful response.<br>
><br>
> *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future<br>
> EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues<br>
> contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also<br>
> contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.<br>
><br>
> *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn<br>
> about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for<br>
> your work. Vincente Scott<br>
><br>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone<br>
> Get Outlook for Android <<a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg</a>><br>
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> *From:* Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> on behalf of<br>
> Richard Alton via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55<br>
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> *Cc:* Richard Alton <<a href="mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richard.alton@gmail.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community<br>
> <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
><br>
> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick<br>
><br>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just<br>
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,<br>
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on<br>
> that date.<br>
><br>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to<br>
> weigh in.<br>
><br>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this<br>
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
><br>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we<br>
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists<br>
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will<br>
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,<br>
> or oe-ica?<br>
><br>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
> the larger community.<br>
><br>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I<br>
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate<br>
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call<br>
> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Tim Wegner<br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Dialogue mailing list<br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Richard H. T. Alton<br>
> ICA Global Fund<br>
> United Methodist Creation Care<br>
> Behold, all things are being made anew<br>
> T: 773.344.7172<br>
> <a href="mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richard.alton@gmail.com</a><br>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400<br>
From: Shelley Hahn <<a href="mailto:shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether. It does seem like one<br>
email thread would be adequate. As a 2G member, my interest is actually<br>
more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a<br>
name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to<br>
stomp off in huff if you choose to just use ICA. ?<br>
<br>
Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!<br>
<br>
Fond regards,<br>
Shelley Hahn<br>
<br>
On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <<br>
<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of<br>
> losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I<br>
> can offer no helpful response.<br>
><br>
> *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future<br>
> EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value. Dialogue among our colleagues<br>
> contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also<br>
> contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.<br>
><br>
> *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn<br>
> about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for<br>
> your work. Vincente Scott<br>
><br>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone<br>
> Get Outlook for Android <<a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg</a>><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
> *From:* Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> on behalf of<br>
> Richard Alton via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55<br>
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> *Cc:* Richard Alton <<a href="mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richard.alton@gmail.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community<br>
> <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
><br>
> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick<br>
><br>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just<br>
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,<br>
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on<br>
> that date.<br>
><br>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to<br>
> weigh in.<br>
><br>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this<br>
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
><br>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we<br>
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists<br>
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will<br>
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,<br>
> or oe-ica?<br>
><br>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
> the larger community.<br>
><br>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I<br>
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate<br>
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call<br>
> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Tim Wegner<br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Dialogue mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Richard H. T. Alton<br>
> ICA Global Fund<br>
> United Methodist Creation Care<br>
> Behold, all things are being made anew<br>
> T: 773.344.7172<br>
> <a href="mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richard.alton@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
> CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do<br>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700<br>
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To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
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<<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700<br>
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To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
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<<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500<br>
From: Timothy Wegner <<a href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@tswegner.net</a>><br>
To: Mari Crocker <<a href="mailto:maricrocker@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">maricrocker@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>,<br>
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Marilyn asked:<br>
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Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the<br>
> past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn<br>
<br>
<br>
Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am<br>
getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to<br>
call the new list.<br>
<br>
I am looking at <a href="https://www.mailmanlists.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mailmanlists.net/</a> as the host. The cost would<br>
be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the<br>
<a href="http://wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wedgeblade.net</a> domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for<br>
the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like<br>
the consensus. Stay tuned!<br>
<br>
We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a<br>
different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old<br>
lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the<br>
new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.<br>
<br>
Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.<br>
<br>
Tim<br>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400<br>
From: Ken Fisher <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Yay, Tim !!!<br>
? ever appreciative, Ken<br>
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> On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Marilyn asked:<br>
> <br>
>> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past? What would you need from the rest of us? Marilyn<br>
> <br>
> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list. <br>
> <br>
> I am looking at <a href="https://www.mailmanlists.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mailmanlists.net/</a> as the host. The cost would be $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the <a href="http://wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wedgeblade.net</a> <<a href="http://wedgeblade.net/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wedgeblade.net/</a>> domain, which I own. There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!<br>
> <br>
> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.<br>
> <br>
> Tim<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Dialogue mailing list<br>
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Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000<br>
From: Richard and Maria Maguire <<a href="mailto:richardandmaria@unfoldingfutures.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richardandmaria@unfoldingfutures.net</a>><br>
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Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
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HI Tim<br>
<br>
Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list <br>
continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.<br>
<br>
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500<br>
> From: Timothy Wegner <<a href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@tswegner.net</a>><br>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>>, Dialogue List<br>
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> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just<br>
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,<br>
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on<br>
> that date.<br>
><br>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to<br>
> weigh in.<br>
><br>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will<br>
> cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his<br>
> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
><br>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we<br>
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists<br>
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will<br>
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,<br>
> or oe-ica?<br>
><br>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason<br>
> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the<br>
> larger community.<br>
><br>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I<br>
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate<br>
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call<br>
> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> Tim Wegner<br>
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> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
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> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
><br>
>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.<br>
>><br>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.<br>
>><br>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>><br>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.<br>
>><br>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Tim Wegner<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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> Message: 3<br>
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400<br>
> From: Ken Fisher <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Dialogue Lists <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Cc: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical<br>
> Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
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>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
><br>
> Agree. Ken<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>><br>
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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> Message: 4<br>
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400<br>
> From: jstanfieldica <<a href="mailto:jstanfieldica@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jstanfieldica@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Cc: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical<br>
> Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
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> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.<br>
> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> Cc: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise <br>
li<br>
> st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge</a><br>
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> From: Diann McCabe <<a href="mailto:diann.mccabe@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">diann.mccabe@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Cc: Dialogue Lists <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Ken Fisher<br>
> <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
> <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
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> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.<br>
> Diann McCabe<br>
><br>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
>><br>
>> Agree. Ken<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,<br>
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July<br>
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end<br>
>> on that date.<br>
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here<br>
>> to weigh in.<br>
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for<br>
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If<br>
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two<br>
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list<br>
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,<br>
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
>> the larger community.<br>
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),<br>
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would<br>
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and<br>
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500<br>
> From: Diann McCabe <<a href="mailto:diann.mccabe@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">diann.mccabe@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Cc: Dialogue Lists <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Ken Fisher<br>
> <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
> <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
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> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.<br>
> Diann McCabe<br>
><br>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
>><br>
>> Agree. Ken<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,<br>
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July<br>
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end<br>
>> on that date.<br>
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here<br>
>> to weigh in.<br>
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for<br>
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If<br>
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two<br>
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list<br>
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,<br>
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
>> the larger community.<br>
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),<br>
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would<br>
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and<br>
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> OE mailing list<br>
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500<br>
> From: Richard Alton <<a href="mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richard.alton@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>>, Timothy Wegner<br>
> <<a href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@tswegner.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
> input requested<br>
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> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick<br>
><br>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just<br>
>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,<br>
>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on<br>
>> that date.<br>
>><br>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to<br>
>> weigh in.<br>
>><br>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this<br>
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>><br>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we<br>
>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists<br>
>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will<br>
>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,<br>
>> or oe-ica?<br>
>><br>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
>> the larger community.<br>
>><br>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I<br>
>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate<br>
>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call<br>
>> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> Tim Wegner<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>><br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700<br>
From: James Wiegel <<a href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:richardandmaria@unfoldingfutures.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richardandmaria@unfoldingfutures.net</a>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
<<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
requested (Timothy Wegner)<br>
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?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!<br>
Jim Wiegel<br>
??the long work<br>
of turning their lives<br>
into a celebration<br>
is not easy. Come and let us talk?. <br>
<br>
The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver<br>
<br>
<br>
> On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> ?HI Tim<br>
> <br>
> Thank you for your work over the years. I would be in favor of one list continuing. Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.<br>
> <br>
> On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, <a href="mailto:oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net</a> wrote:<br>
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>> 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)<br>
>> 2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Karen Snyder)<br>
>> 3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Ken Fisher)<br>
>> 4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (jstanfieldica)<br>
>> 5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Diann McCabe)<br>
>> 6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Diann McCabe)<br>
>> 7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Richard Alton)<br>
>> 8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested<br>
>> (<a href="mailto:zbarley@earthlink.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">zbarley@earthlink.net</a>)<br>
>> 9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Mari Crocker)<br>
>> 10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)<br>
>> 11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)<br>
>> 12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)<br>
>> 13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Sharon Fisher)<br>
>> 14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Sharon Fisher)<br>
>> 15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing<br>
>> lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)<br>
>> 16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested (Seth Longacre)<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
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>> <br>
>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500<br>
>> From: Timothy Wegner <<a href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@tswegner.net</a>><br>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>>, Dialogue List<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input<br>
>> requested<br>
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>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just<br>
>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,<br>
>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on<br>
>> that date.<br>
>> <br>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to<br>
>> weigh in.<br>
>> <br>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will<br>
>> cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his<br>
>> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>> <br>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we<br>
>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists<br>
>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will<br>
>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,<br>
>> or oe-ica?<br>
>> <br>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason<br>
>> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the<br>
>> larger community.<br>
>> <br>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I<br>
>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate<br>
>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call<br>
>> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> <br>
>> Tim Wegner<br>
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>> Message: 2<br>
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500<br>
>> From: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>>, Timothy Wegner<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@tswegner.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
>> input requested<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
>> <br>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.<br>
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.<br>
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.<br>
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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>> Message: 3<br>
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400<br>
>> From: Ken Fisher <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Dialogue Lists <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical<br>
>> Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
>> input requested<br>
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>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
>> <br>
>> Agree. Ken<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.<br>
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.<br>
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.<br>
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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>> Message: 4<br>
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400<br>
>> From: jstanfieldica <<a href="mailto:jstanfieldica@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jstanfieldica@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical<br>
>> Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
>> input requested<br>
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>> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.<br>
>> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> Date: 2026-05-25 4:17 p.m. (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> Cc: Karen Snyder <<a href="mailto:karen.snyder10@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">karen.snyder10@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise<br>
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>> st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge</a><br>
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500<br>
>> From: Diann McCabe <<a href="mailto:diann.mccabe@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">diann.mccabe@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: Dialogue Lists <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Ken Fisher<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
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>> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.<br>
>> Diann McCabe<br>
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>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
>>> Agree. Ken<br>
>>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,<br>
>>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July<br>
>>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end<br>
>>> on that date.<br>
>>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here<br>
>>> to weigh in.<br>
>>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
>>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for<br>
>>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If<br>
>>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two<br>
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list<br>
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,<br>
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
>>> the larger community.<br>
>>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),<br>
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would<br>
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and<br>
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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>>> OE mailing list<br>
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500<br>
>> From: Diann McCabe <<a href="mailto:diann.mccabe@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">diann.mccabe@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: Dialogue Lists <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Ken Fisher<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
>> input requested<br>
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>> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.<br>
>> Diann McCabe<br>
>> <br>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?. Karen<br>
>>> Agree. Ken<br>
>>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,<br>
>>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July<br>
>>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end<br>
>>> on that date.<br>
>>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here<br>
>>> to weigh in.<br>
>>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
>>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for<br>
>>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If<br>
>>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two<br>
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list<br>
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,<br>
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?<br>
>>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
>>> the larger community.<br>
>>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),<br>
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would<br>
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and<br>
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> OE mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500<br>
>> From: Richard Alton <<a href="mailto:richard.alton@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">richard.alton@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:OE@wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">OE@wedgeblade.net</a>>, Timothy Wegner<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tim@tswegner.net</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,<br>
>> input requested<br>
>> Message-ID:<br>
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>> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick<br>
>> <br>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just<br>
>>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,<br>
>>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on<br>
>>> that date.<br>
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to<br>
>>> weigh in.<br>
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists<br>
>>> will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this<br>
>>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.<br>
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we<br>
>>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists<br>
>>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will<br>
>>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,<br>
>>> or oe-ica?<br>
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on<br>
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to<br>
>>> the larger community.<br>
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I<br>
>>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate<br>
>>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call<br>
>>> it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.<br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Tim Wegner<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Dialogue mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
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