<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">As always, Bill, your succinct and profound articulation captures the essence of my/our life-mission’s conceptual framework.<div><br></div><div>Marilyn<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 20, 2025, at 10:01 AM, Bill Schlesinger via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sure. Meditation, Contemplation, and Prayer are forms that focus our intent and interior dialogue. Concern is expressed by symbolic as well as structural actions.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Bill Schlesinger<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OE <<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>James Wiegel via OE<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, December 20, 2025 7:46 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>James Wiegel <<a href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Oe List ...] A message from Leo<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Can you translate to ICA EI jargon? Can you translate to every day? <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BKcL27HyT/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw3aIear5BU7MbdOvGwcZT7y" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BKcL27HyT/</a><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Jim Wiegel</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">“…the long work</span><br><span class="s1">of turning their lives</span><br><span class="s1">into a celebration</span><br><span class="s1">is not easy. Come </span><span style="font-size: 19pt;">and let us talk“. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 19pt;">The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Dec 19, 2025, at 8:14 PM, Isobel and Jim via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thank you Richard and also thank you Dharma. I resonate with your thought of ‘a hidden hand ‘. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I have spent silent time this week in my local Church praying and lighting candles for the 15, for the 20 wounded, for the two gunmen, and for all the Agencies whose job it is to keep peace and security in our civil society. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This horrendous action is a ‘world wide and history long’ occasion of further extreme evil. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hope is the essence I rely on at this time - <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">May it be so for your troubled nation; for mine, and for the whole world - <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Respect, care and kindness will give me guidance- though I may fail at these, I will stand up again and resume my stance as best as I can. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In sorrow, <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Isobel <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Isobel Bishop<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mob. 0412 129 425<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On 20 Dec 2025, at 12:37 am, Dharmalingam Vinasithamby via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">To respond to the Bondi massacre responsibly needs lucidity. We should not inadvertently make things worse. We need to know what actually happened and who did what. This is not as simple and straightforward as it may seem. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">It appears what happened was racial hatred vented by people traumatized by Israel’s violent attacks in Gaza. Anger that could drive Arabs and Muslims to do terrible things tthey would not normally do.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Here is question to consider: Was there a “hidden hand”? Was the scene set to make Australians see this as a case of angry Muslims attacking Jews? Could this be a false flag operation?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">We should ask: “Who benefits from this incident”? That may reveal clues. After the killing, Netanyahu said he had warned Australians about their support for the Palestinians. To me, it seemed like a move to tweak public opinion against the Palestinians. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">What are other forces at work? Who else is trying to manipulate public opinion and drive nations to war? I’m reminded of Colin Powell’s declaration that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction. That drove the US to destroy a nation and the lives of its own soldiers. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">So, was this really racism? Hatred for those who don’t look or behave like us? Thank God for people like Ahmed al-Ahmed who inserted a dose of reality – a human being responding to the moment. He really wrecked the story of the evil Muslim preying on Jews. Let’s not be naïve. Let’s not get taken for a ride by mercenary forces. There are smart and clever people working behind the scenes. Millions to be made in manufacturing and selling weapons and explosives. All they need to do is to play with the fears and imagination of the people. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div id="ydpa4e92b9cyahoo_quoted_6715227266"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">On Friday, 19 December 2025 at 04:42:40 pm MYT, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div id="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542"><div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">I imagine that you as well as the rest of the world have heard about the horrible killings in Bondi.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">This even brings out once again how terrible it must be for people who have to be afraid of being attacked at any time by violent people just because of who they are, here especially First Nations, people from the Mideast, Jews and Africans. Even though the number of people who would do such things is relatively small, the threat is always there. We hope this might move the politicians to do a lot more about guns, the laws here were very good, but had many loopholes and have been whittled back over the years through political horse trading. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">We have been struggling with how to talk about Bondi without being seen as defending the indefensible, yet bringing in the larger context. It seems to us that there needs to be a lot more conversation about why antisemitic and Islamophobic attacks have ballooned in the past few years, since Israel's murderous genocidal attacks on Palestinians. See for instance<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://theconversation.com/bondi-attack-came-after-huge-increase-in-online-antisemitism-research-272045&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw20XTrvceLFIVtmoHzvyT7H" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://theconversation.com/bondi-attack-came-after-huge-increase-in-online-antisemitism-research-272045</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.visionofhumanity.org/gaza-conflict-leads-to-rise-in-antisemitism-and-islamophobia/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw3EPAwReoIPMFnS-Sjr-tyf" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"> https://www.visionofhumanity.org/gaza-conflict-leads-to-rise-in-antisemitism-and-islamophobia/</a>This dimension of current reality has not been reported much in the media and governments have avoided doing much to deal with the causes. We are also concerned that if the government puts into law the Antisemitism statement proposed by their "envoy" it could make things worse on all sides<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/research/commentary/antisemitism-plan-australia-contentious-definition&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw3e92c-VpuJe2vg3E8vl2vj" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/research/commentary/antisemitism-plan-australia-contentious-definition</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">We were grateful to find these two statement in our emails yesterday from two Australian organisations, "The Movement"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://themovement4point0.au/news/condemn-Bondi-beach-massacre&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw11WCUgt82mSiaxg46OVecj" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://themovement4point0.au/news/condemn-Bondi-beach-massacre</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and from The Australian Jewish Council<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw2baffYuEH6pQLD4lThX865" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/</a> which do a great job of holding the tension. We notice how Gaza news has been wiped off the news feeds this week, even though twice as many innocent Palestinians have been killed<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>per day over the last two years</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>as were the 15 innocent people killed in Bondi. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">We, and I believe ICAA, are not interested in making public statements, but it would be great if we could converse about how to respond to immediate disasters like this and bring out the underlying contradictions behind them.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">One "positive" arising from the Gaza war and behavior of governments is that the interest in Human Rights has grown considerably among the populations. I went to a lecture on international Human Rights and government responsibility featuring Chris Sidoti from the UN Commission on Human Rights, an international Law professor from U of Sydney and Elizabeth Evatt in a large hall that was filled with several hundred people. They commented that if this event had happened five years ago, the hall would have had few non specialists attending.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">I grew up in a household with a father who was stridently racist and antisemitic. I didn't like the things he was saying, neither did my mother or my siblings, but we didn't have the means to engage him productively so just stayed quiet. I have yet to really understand what leads people to pick up these and similar beliefs and actions other than what dawned on me when I read "You are Accepted" in 1962 long before I met the ICA. That essay changed my life and my life direction. When I learned how the EI was using this piece, as well as its influence on our methods and mission, I was really grateful and still am.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Warmly<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Richard<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">On 19/12/2025 1:02 pm, Karen Newkirk wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Hi Richard, </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Merry Christmas to you and Maria!</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">I have sent the letters to the ToP Network USA and the ICAI Board, however, as stated in the letter, we should wait until the ICAI Board and/or ourselves have received the hotel invoice before we process our payment. </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Thank you</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Karen</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Karen Clover Newkirk<br>52 Nelson Rd Queenscliff VIC 3225<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Grateful to the Wathaurung / WadawurungTraditional Owners.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><a href="mailto:karennewkirk@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">karennewkirk@gmail.com</a><br>0419 577 489<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">On 19 Dec 2025, at 9:42 am,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:balmkevin@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">balmkevin@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Karen,</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">I’m good to go with the two letters.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Regards</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Kevin</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-color: currentcolor;"><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">From:</span></b><span class="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542apple-converted-space"><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Karen Newkirk <<a href="mailto:karennewkirk@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">karennewkirk@gmail.com</span></a>><span class="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 19 December 2025 8:37 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542apple-converted-space"> </span>Kevin Balm <<a href="mailto:balmkevin@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">balmkevin@gmail.com</span></a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542apple-converted-space"> </span>David Jago <<a href="mailto:david@smartmeetings.com.au" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">david@smartmeetings.com.au</span></a>>; Richard&Maria Maguire <<a href="mailto:richardandmaria@unfoldingfutures.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">richardandmaria@unfoldingfutures.net</span></a>>; Ms. Michelle Rush <<a href="mailto:michelle@facilitate.co.nz" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">michelle@facilitate.co.nz</span></a>>; Robyn Hutchinson <<a href="mailto:rjhutchinson48@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134);">rjhutchinson48@gmail.com</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="ydpa4e92b9cyiv9671546542apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: DRAFT Response to ToP Network USA re-$ for conference</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Hi Kevin (in particular), David, Richard and Michelle,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">I have a response from Robyn:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">“Im OK with these - in haste. thanks Robyn”.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Michelle has spoken. David and Richard were happy with the original. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Kevin, you have been closest to the issue and had significant feedback on the original draft. Could you please let me know your opinion on these two letters?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Thank you <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Karen <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><DarugSignature.jpg><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">_______________________________________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766846944000000&usg=AOvVaw0Rt3x-FKu1kKNPIItQPVqY" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><DarugSignature.jpg><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: This transmission may contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally privileged and proprietary and may be subject to protection under the law, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). 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