<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">There was also the overall STRUCTURE that set things up<div>Aconversation that raised the issue (say your name and what grounds you in history</div><div>A lecture that set the context (whooo am i. What doooo i)</div><div>THEN a seminar for depth struggle with the topic (broad picture —,get the chart up go through it then depth drilling (what does the author say? What does it mean? Where have you experienced that?). Then the wrap up. Read paragraph xx. Pedagog draws bold, noisy arrows. Now someone read the next paragraph— more bold noisy arrows. Then somehow a bold wavy line appears between the arrows. What would you call this situation?? Bultmann calls it ,,,</div><div>And then the pedagog disappears and someone is up front handing out Geneva Offices.</div><div><br></div><div>Neither White boards and markers nor projection screens and computers have been able to reduplicate that drama.</div><div><br></div><div>And history moved and we with it towards a more dialogical style.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Jim Wiegel</span><br><div>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">“…the long work<br>
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is not easy. Come </span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 19pt;">and let us talk</span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 19pt;">“. </span></p><p class="p1"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 19pt;">The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 13, 2025, at 5:17 PM, Mari Crocker via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">No, Dear W.J., me thinks you remember it correctly. The “packaging” of what was originally “unprocessed”, save through grounded, raw life experience, resulted in a skimmed milk, albeit easily scale-able, replica-able and sale-able product.<div><br></div><div>Mari<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 12, 2025, at 12:38 PM, W. J. via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><div class="ydp73c8092dyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I don't often comment here, but I did review RS-1 in a Nutshell.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">My very precise memory is that "the big squeeze" image from teaching Bultmann starts with using the<b> upward</b> <b>arrows</b> to represent how we are thrust into life by a mysterious power, given care(s), longing (for the true and the beautiful, or just indefinite longing), the thirst for knowledge, and the desire to love (and to be loved, btw), thoughts and strength to work (toward solutions), and our struggle between duty and self-assertion.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">And the <b>downward</b> <b>arrows</b> to represent how each of those human propensities is limited or negated by the circumstances of life that we are given by that same mysterious power, including the torment of our guilt.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">So, was that the <b>classic</b> version of how to teach Bultmann, or did I somehow get it <b>flat wrong</b> for all these years (including teaching in the Academy)?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">And just who decided to <b>flip</b> that image upside down when they squeezed RS-1 Lite into a nutshell for facilitators? </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I may have some very vague wisps of memory of how this may have been discussed many years ago.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Or possibly I'm just getting too old to worry about it now.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Marshall Jones</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div>
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On Wednesday, July 9, 2025 at 09:05:46 PM PDT, Nancy Trask via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623"><div><div>Dear ones,</div><div>Here’s my memory of the title of Larry’s contribution of the very brief RS-1 story, “The 44-Second RS-1,” and I thought it was said by JWM. It clearly saved a lot of time—just 44 seconds rather than 44 hours! I had it posted at my desk for years at my library job, and it usually made me grin, or sometimes grimace.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>“RS-1 in a Nutshell” is as Karen shared from the Archives.</div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Nancy Trask</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623gmail_quote ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623gmail_quote_container"><div id="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623yqtfd81198" class="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623yqt8812066730"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 9:25 AM Karen Snyder Troxel via OE <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" class="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623gmail_quote"><div>Here is the ICA Global Archives page, found in the Spirit Movement Collection on RSI that has both “RSI in a Nutshell” and Tom Bergdall’s paper: <a shape="rect" href="https://icaglobalarchives.org/collections/spiritmovement/rs-i-plc/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://icaglobalarchives.org/collections/spiritmovement/rs-i-plc/</a>. </div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none" id="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623m_8202699910163651713lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 9, 2025, at 8:42 AM, James Wiegel via OE <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none"><div><div>Earlier in this thread, David sent round a summary of RS-1 and mentioned the middle part of Iron Boy transcribes his experience taking the course. Somene mentioned RS-1 in a Nutshell (often attributed to Joe Pierce) shortly thereafter.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>In the middle of the night it came up for me that Tom Bergdall (Terry's brother) wrote a summary of RS-1 but I cannot find it. Anyone recall or have that?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I had coffee and a conversation yesterday with son Dhondiram especially about experiences in Kenya, Brussels, the Rite of Passage Journey and the RLC. It was interrupted by a call from his neighbor, Subash, that water was flowing out of Dhondi's yard into his requiring a facetime call to locate the problem and deal with it. Son Shanker is down with COVID at the moment and daughter Jenny is in Alaska visiting their first grand child. More later.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Sending love and gratitude to all the Earth mothers and Earth daughters . . .</div><div><br clear="none" id="ydp73c8092dyiv1132383623m_8202699910163651713lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt;">Jim Wiegel</span><br clear="none"><div><p><span>“We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “ </span><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Stephen Hawking</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">OE mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none"></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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