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Interesting remark, Diann, can you say more about what is resonating?
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What a gift to read this, Karen. It resonates with the times now. Thank you--Diann McCabe, San Marcos, TX
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Here is Jean Loomis telling her story about creating the Iron Man statue: <a href="https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21019.pdf" target="_blank"></a>
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One of my more "recent" fond memories was visiting 5th City (12? 15?) years ago. Ruth Carter had just retired but the PreSchool staff gave her a call and she came running over. We had a great reunion. She called her grandson to come over and meet us and he proudly showed showed us his Iron Man tatou on his fore arm. Then we walked over to the original statue and posed for pictures. I believe that the original statue was designed by Jean Loomis. Working in 5th City with the local residents -old and young- changed my life! So grateful.
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Gender neutral Iron Person is a good idea.
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Where’s IM Waldo? These mini Iron Man statues may be artifacts. If only one was made per Religious House, then there were only 50-100 of them in circulation then, and surely fewer now. I wonder how my dad got a hold of the one from the Wichita RH. He didn’t have any connection to that house, but since we joined the Order in Evanston in 1962 from Olathe, Kansas, not far from Wichita, it seems oddly appropriate for this one to have landed with the Marshall clan. Collectors items from an OE bygone era. 😊
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I learned the key elements of RS-1 in the Leadership Options program developed by George & (Keith) Elise Packard, Jan Ames and others in the early 90's. I later became part of the LO training team, with the hope of expanding its locations, which we found difficult to do.
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Later on, John Cock led an effort with others to refine and redevelop the RS-I into the Profound Journey Dialogue. I became part of that team also, but it was challenging to market it to a broader audience. I know the new format was taught many times, each in different cities. I know it was taught at least twice in MN. I would need to check on the dates.
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David, I took my RS-1 the first time in 1971. It was very much still available.
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Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] David Marshall's IRON BOY Launches Today
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Whoops, that last message about Order Kids? structures was meant for Wesson. As an OE listserv newbie, I?m still trying to navigate.
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Responding to Debra?s comment, that?s one of the reasons I was compelled to write IRON BOY, to give a first-hand account from a child?s and teenager?s perspective from the beginning. Many friends, family, co-works and history buffs over multiple generations have heard about those early days in the Order, but I suspect much of it was second-, third-, or fourth-hand. It?s like playing Telephone as a kid. By the time the secret sentence whispered in each year gets to the end of the line, it?s a far cry from what the original child said.
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Another motivator for me: I wondered how many folks who joined the ICA in the 1970s and later ever knew what RS-1 was or could measure its direct or indirect impact for themselves if it was not longer available. Many readers may be surprised that an RS-1 primer is embedded inside IRON BOY for that very reason, albeit from an 11-year-old?s perspective. Many EI/ICA alumni may still ask today how much of RS-1 could be understood by a child or teenager. I?ll attempt to answer that in a listserv post this coming weekend.
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? I ordered it on Kindle and just started reading it- thank you David for your perspective and insights.
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I don't remember having an Iron Man statue in the houses I was in.. but it was a long time ago.
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Yes David, There was an Iron Man statue in every Religious House. Congratulations on your book. I have ordered it, Mary Laura Jones
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