<div dir="auto">I can't believe I'm doing this. I never weigh in on politics publicly. I'm no expert; I don't pretend to be. Dharma, I have read your words and they are powerful and important and have given me much to consider. I am very glad you are sharing your thoughts here, and I respect them greatly. And this is not a one-issue election. There are HUGE differences between these candidates. As a woman in the US I consider it imperative to make the right choice--for women, for people of color in our nation, for LGBTQ folks. There is no perfect candidate. But I am terrified of what will happen to our nation if we don't make the right choice. Terrified. These candidates are NOT the same. They are not. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Very respectfully, </div><div dir="auto">Shelley</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 9, 2024, 9:30 PM Dharmalingam Vinasithamby via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">What is that difference? What makes it significant in the light of the US policy to arm Israel and support the bombing of Gaza? </div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, 10 August 2024 at 08:52:58 am GMT+8, Randy Williams <<a href="mailto:randycw1938@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">randycw1938@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div><div><p>Why take sides over Trump or his rival from the Democrats? Is
there a difference? Do either of them possess virtues so precious that they
should be highlighted for the world to acknowledge? </p>
<p>When a rogue nation dominates the world, scapegoating an
entire people and unleashing genocide, why do its citizens fall over each other
to hold up their leaders as heroes? Why are they not ashamed like the Germans were
when they realised what they did to Jews, the Romas, the homosexuals and the
disabled? I have spoken with Germans who were sickened of their ancestral links
to these horrors. But Americans seem immune despite their record of enslaving Africans,
ethnic cleansing of native Americans and exploiting nations struggling to
develop themselves. Now they fight to defend Trump or Biden who used their country
to help Netanyahu and his gang kill 40,000 Palestinians, many of them children.
When did nationality and political favourites become more important than being human?</p></div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Saturday, 10 August 2024 at 02:26:43 am GMT+8, Susan Fertig via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:
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<div>Marshall, is the ICA monolithic? Can only people who vilify Trump and ignore the lies on the other side consider themselves members or on the march? If so, then I guess I have to bow out </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Remember Donald Trump? Well, as of today, he's still running! Sort of.</div>
<div>So just why did The Donald give an emergency press conference yesterday from the Mar-a-lago ballroom? Where Trump would normally
<i>never</i> be in the immediate wake of an August hurricane, no less?</div>
<div>Short answer: it's ALL fake, folks!</div>
<div>Unlike Trump's Bedminster golf club, Mar-a-lago is gold-plated and palatial, evoking subliminal Presidential vibes. Trump can't commandeer the White House, but he desperately needs to project maximum Presidential impact. </div>
<div>So--back to Florida, instead of hitting the campaign trail.</div>
<div>The short version of Trump's meandering, unscripted, off-the-cuff political diatribe: Trump projects a fake Presidential authority within his peculiar House of Cards that's structured as a fragile bubble of intersecting lies.</div>
<div>At the center of his shocking, defensive display of unacknowledged angst is Trump's mental dysfunction of which he is unaware. </div>
<div>In other words, Trump's denial of his mental illness, and his inability to see clearly that his propensity to live within a fake, constructed reality serves only his perceived self-interest, is a significant dimension of his mental illness.</div>
<div>In short, it's self-destructive, malignant, delusionary narcissism propped up by political sycophants who do know better and armies of gullible MAGA worshippers who would rather believe Trump's Repugnant lies than confront their own personal truth.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Trump's not exactly what anyone else would call a "stable genius."</div>
<div>Fasten your seat belts, folks! It's already a bumpy election.</div>
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