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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dharma,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I appreciate your reasoned comments. I agree with most of it, including that Trump is an odious personality and Biden is unconscionably, disgustingly corrupt. The only thing
I disagree with is the part about Israel. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and it is our only ally, so we MUST defend them. (Ukraine not so much!!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">But further, Israel will never be safe, and that teeny tiny country is her last bastion. When the attacks came, they came so horrifically—babies beheaded, girls raped, and
how many hostages! They must go forward—all attempts to free the hostages have been met with lies and prevarications.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">And what is happening in this country (the riots and “demonstrations”) is nothing but shameful. Didn’t the Jews lose enough in WWII? How is it that anyone can practice discrimination
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have not much sympathy for the Palestinians—nearly all of them were in sympathy for and supporting Hamas.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have been to Israel, and I’ve seen the terrible conditions the Palestinians live under. But the fact remains that nearly all of them have been guilty of terrorism against
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan Fertig-Dykes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dharmalingam Vinasithamby via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 21, 2024 8:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dharmalingam Vinasithamby <dvinasithamby@yahoo.com>; Molly Shaw <mollyshaw54@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Our Future<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="ydpd4d663f9msonormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">My comments were a reaction to George Conway’s attack on Trump. It reflects the disdain of some Americans who reject Trump and his bad behaviour but accept leaders
with better personalities but more bankrupt morals. To an outside observer, what matters is the impact that US presidents make on my country and the world generally. When I compare Bush, Trump and Biden, I see one president desperately looking for an excuse
to invade Iraq when people were shell shocked by the twin tower attack apparently engineered by Osama and his Saudi Arabian gang. With Trump, I expected a similarly trigger-happy leader. I was surprised when he threw out the Pentagon’s recommendation that
he bomb Iran. With Biden, I am aghast at how he and his associates let Israel lead them by the nose (with political funding as sweeteners). When the US is in danger of being ousted by China, why allow distractions like Israel and Ukraine to take precedence?
Are they loyal to Americans or to weapons manufacturers? Why doesn’t that create a greater disgust than Trump’s erratic behaviour?
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<p class="ydp8039f91dyiv0336412477ydpef559384msonormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#26282A">A president who has made the US complicit in the genocide of Palestinians – 38,000 and more killed in the last few months.
A president who invaded a sovereign nation to eliminate weapons of mass destruction but turned it into a festering sore of terrorism. And many other presidents who led the US in some of the greatest crimes that a nation can commit. Compare Trump to those men.
Then imagine what the US will continue to do if the July 13<sup>th</sup> bullet had found its mark and saved the day for Biden.
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