<p dir="ltr">Yes Jim. Thank you for your follow-up. It is true that that Finland, and for the most part the rest of Scandinavia, is very tech savvy. Estonia is very much in the sphere of influence of Finland. Besides singing and music, Estonia very much prides itself as being a math and science oriented country. At least they are proud of the people who pioneer in these areas. So yes most people are online. Most people can suffice with a smartphone and this gives them access to government anywhere in the world.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2024, 12:18 AM James Wiegel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks, Ed; thanks, Dharma.<div><br></div><div>Local government and local community, whether bioregion or neighborhood or even intentional communities -- there seems to be an instinctive realization that that is important though how??</div><div><br></div><div>I did not know about Estonia--or maybe heard of it and forgot. Would it be correct to assume they made a signficant investment in technology to do that? Does most everyone there have online access??</div><div><br></div><div>To Dharma's point, at least in the US, I feel so self-obsessed with what is going on here that there is little room in my consciousness to think seriously of all the innovations elsewhere. Dharma, can you describe a bit the gap you see between "the west". And the "global south"?? And the places you mentioned --Russia, Israel, Ukraine, China. There is a lot of talk in Herman's study group about recovering indigenous world views and insights re: governance.</div><div><br id="m_-9148084902104049166lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jim Wiegel</span><br><div>
<p><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">“We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “ </span><span style="font-size:13pt;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Stephen Hawking</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 21, 2024, at 10:12 PM, Dharmalingam Vinasithamby <<a href="mailto:dvinasithamby@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dvinasithamby@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Jim,</div><div>Related to your question about what innovations, shifts or changes would be needed, I (probably like many of you) am aware of the growing gap in world view between the “West” and the “Global South” in recent years. I see this particularly in Western perceptions of and attitudes to specific nations – Russia, Israel, Ukraine and China, among them. My (?jaundiced) explanation is that those who run the media are eager to keep the “West” in a bubble that shapes how they see the world. For some reason, they are either unable or uninterested in doing this for those outside the West. </div><div>Identifying these gaps and trying to figure out what causes them would help us get a grip on this gap that will surely affect how we as the world envision the future.</div><div><br></div></div>Dharma</div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, 22 July 2024 at 09:25:59 am GMT+8, James Wiegel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="m_-9148084902104049166ydpbbd4451yiv6170915421"><div>Some of you may remember Herman Greene. I am involved in a "study group" with him and several dozen others looking into what kind of governance we need moving forward in this century with all that it holds.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Just wondering what thoughts any of you might have about what improvements, innovations, shifts or changes in governance, politics, morals, leadership that might produce better outcomes for all of us?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks in advance. <br clear="none" id="m_-9148084902104049166ydpbbd4451yiv6170915421lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jim Wiegel</span><br clear="none"><div>
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