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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>In a binary choice world – I agree. I find former President Trump a charlatan and – more dangerous – a successfully scapegoating demagogue. However, I am painfully aware that the world is more than binary, and that avoiding a second term for Trump is a minimal step in a maximal world.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 21, 2024 9:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> William Schlesinger <w.schlesinger@pvida.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Molly Shaw <mollyshaw54@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Our Future<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That may be true. And I’m as displeased with Biden’s role in Gaza and Bush’s invasion of Iraq, along with things Clinton, Obama and most other U.S. presidents have done. But on November 5 we will have to make a choice. And to suggest that there is some equivalence between Trump and ANY other American president, Nixon included, if indeed that’s what Dharma was doing, is a step way too far for me. In my opinion, Trump is the most morally bankrupt character to ever have walked across the stage of American history, bar none.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Randy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 21, 2024, at 11:04 AM, William Schlesinger <<a href="mailto:w.schlesinger@pvida.net">w.schlesinger@pvida.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I speak only for myself. What i hear, is an understanding that this is not a choice between Good and Evil, right and wrong, but part of a complex historical and political process that has done great damage to the world even as it has done some good things for the world.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 8:59 AM Randy Williams via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dharma,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I’m not sure I’m getting your point. Please explain.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Randy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 21, 2024, at 9:35 AM, Dharmalingam Vinasithamby via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>A president who has made the US complicit in the genocide of Palestinians – 38,000 and more killed in the last few months. A president who invaded a sovereign nation to eliminate weapons of mass destruction but turned it into a festering sore of terrorism. And many other presidents who led the US in some of the greatest crimes that a nation can commit. Compare Trump to those men. Then imagine what the US will continue to do if the July 13<sup>th</sup> bullet had found its mark and saved the day for Biden. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_-1388903494841203739ydpb0f552c2yahoo_quoted_2307210127"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Sunday, 21 July 2024 at 07:41:33 pm GMT+8, A.M. Noel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="m_-1388903494841203739ydpb0f552c2yiv5436585813"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DNyRD47IBNmY&source=gmail-imap&ust=1722179979000000&usg=AOvVaw2ReCY7lFpI5bSVsFp_KMaf" target="_blank">George Conway DESTROYS Trump In Most DEVASTATING Ad Yet! (youtube.com)</a><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>A.M. 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