<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Feb 6, 2024, at 4:15 PM, Bill Schlesinger via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Oof. In migration is non-stop in so many parts of the world that are experiencing systems breakdowns due to climate change and violence. Multiple myths are being promulgated (replacement theory, Dems bringing in more people to vote for them, etc.) while resources are expended by the good state of Texas on barbed wire and National Guard troops instead of functional systems to receive, determine asylum claims, and channeling folk.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Bloomberg news talks about the negative birth rate in the USA requiring a higher influx of immigration than is currently legal; politicizing the issues (including holding back any action to ‘deny a victory’ to opponents) has removed rationality from the discussion.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Restore white birthrates by denying abortion rights and giving some tax advantages to stay-at-home white mothers.</div><div>Culture wars.</div><div><br></div><div>FWIW</div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Feds spending millions on retention camps both in construction and staffing – and staffing with the same Border Patrol folk who could be processing immigrants. Self-defeating strategies seem all the rage.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Watching El Salvador to see the effect of tightening down on gangs. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">‘Comprehensive Immigration Reform.’ That along with a two-state solution and world peace seems out of reach.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We used to be concerned about the tyranny of the economic. Under populism, culture may have become the tyrant squeezing the economic pretty heavily – at least in terms of workforce availability.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">FWIW.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Bill<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>James Wiegel <<a href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 6, 2024 1:02 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>William Schlesinger <<a href="mailto:w.schlesinger@pvida.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">w.schlesinger@pvida.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Oe List ...] Dropped?<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Last I got was Jan 25th about Ellie Stock's film series . . . <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">How are you -- would appreciate hearing your sense of what's happening re: migration and any intuitions about a way forward.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://partnersinparticipation.com/james-wiegel/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1707854533000000&usg=AOvVaw3yF5yzjzpJLhmA1sqZ09Gc" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">Jim Wiegel<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div><p class="ydp209e23c4msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">The unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing. John Lennon<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; background: white;">401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="ydpa512fec3msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background: white;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">623-363-3277</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="ydpa512fec3msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background: white;"><span style="font-size: 14.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="ydpa512fec3msonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background: white;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue;"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1707854533000000&usg=AOvVaw2hpCF0Mt3ZgHnlovHfAM-a" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.partnersinparticipation.com</a></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div id="ydpcb7cb546yahoo_quoted_7537250909"><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 12:45:25 PM MST, William Schlesinger via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div id="ydpcb7cb546yiv7616011753"><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Haven't seen anything recently...<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">Bill Schlesinger<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);"><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);">CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: This transmission may contain confidential information belonging to the sender that is legally privileged and proprietary and may be subject to protection under the law, including the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). 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