<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I remember having the opportunity to have a conversation with him in a small group of Quakers, when i was living in Nebraska. It was in the mid-1960s. I just remember this soft spoken man with long flowing white hair who seemed to be wise, sitting in a circle with us and sharing in conversation about nonviolent demonstrations and the peace movement. Milan H. <div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 15, 2023, at 2:26 PM, James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Don't we all? Hard to let go of<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Jim Wiegel</span><br><div>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">“…the long work<br>
of turning their lives<br>
into a celebration<br>
is not easy. Come </span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 19pt;">and let us talk</span><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 19pt;">“. </span></p><p class="p1"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 19pt;">The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 15, 2023, at 3:10 PM, carletonstock@aol.com wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydp208b9718yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:arial;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Seems like Trump instinctively knows this (and uses it for his own promotion and defense)!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Carleton Stock</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">St. Louis</div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 11:08:51 PM CST, Nancy Trask via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781"><div><div>A long and fearsome/fascinating article. </div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Nancy Trask</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781gmail_quote"><div id="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781yqt70987" class="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781yqt0940441016"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:33 PM James Wiegel via OE <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" class="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">"What this means is that for any individual organism or organization, there are no such things as "facts." There are</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">only messages filtered through a changeable value system. This statement may sound rather startling."</div></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">This from the paper we used in the 1969 version of the Imaginal Education Colloquy . . .</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">See below an article on the history of "the fact"</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div></div><div id="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781m_1720101984372329378ydp13dbf916yahoo_quoted_2781594727"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42);"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div>
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colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="text-align:left;padding:15px 0px 0px 15px;vertical-align:top;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0px 0px;vertical-align:top;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><div style="font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr style="font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:repeat rgb(255,255,255);width:100%;max-width:400px;border-radius:0px 0px 2px 2px;border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-top-color:rgb(224,228,233);"><tbody style="font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><tr style="font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="padding:16px 0px 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);"></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="vertical-align:middle;padding:12px 24px 16px 12px;width:99%;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;border-radius:0px 0px 2px;"><h2 style="font-size:14px;line-height:19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;max-width:314px;color:rgb(29,34,40);">An obituary for the fact</h2><p style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px;margin:0px;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(151,158,168);">Farewell to a friend of social harmony (1500–2000)</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none" id="ydp62ebc061yiv2598789781m_1720101984372329378ydp13dbf916yiv2509886917lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Jim Wiegel</span><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">
<p style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">“…the long work<br clear="none">
of turning their lives<br clear="none">
into a celebration<br clear="none">
is not easy. Come </span><span style="font-size:19pt;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">and let us talk</span><span style="font-size:19pt;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">“. </span></p><p style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:19pt;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span></p></div></div></div></div>
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