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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>OK, so I’ve been playing with the Greek behind the translations in the English documents called the ‘New Testament.’<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>What gets translated ‘Kingdom of Heaven’ is baseliea Ouranos. The heavens – Ouranos – encompass all of the planet, etc. Baselieia has at its root word bas – which means footing or foundation (it’s where we get the English word ‘base.’) While it’s used for the Roman Empire as well, it has a different connotation. If one’s foundation is Rome, there are certain implications for context and behavior. But if one’s foundation is the heavens, then there are different implications as far as being inclusive, comprehensive – well, you get the picture.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>The word that is translated as ‘sin’ is hamartia – the negative of martia (which is where we get ‘martial’) but martia actually refers to ‘mark’ as in target. So the literal translation here is ‘missing the mark.’ Taking the hole instead of the doughnut. Living in illusion? Not getting it? Screwing up?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Repentance translates the word ‘metanoia’ – literally ‘new’ – meta – mind – nous/noia. New mindedness. Or ‘Ah! Now I get it!’ <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Resurrection translates several words in Greek, one of which is ‘egeiro’ which literally translates as ‘awaken.’ Getting woke? Another is histemi – Stand up. Wake up, get up!<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Save and heal often translate the same Greek word – sozo – which is also literally to make whole.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Heal also translates the word ‘therapeuo’ – where we get ‘therapy,’ but means to serve. Healing as serving – interesting.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>FWIW -<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Bill Schlesinger (He/Him)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Project Vida<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>3607 Rivera Avenue<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>El Paso, TX 79905<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>www.pvida.net<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Office: (915) 465-1191 x 207<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Cell: (915) 490-6148<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>FAX: (915) 503-1014<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Colleen Haithcock via OE<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 22, 2023 11:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Colleen Haithcock <colleenonnortheastcreek@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Searching for a paper<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>I think we live in the "Other World" like fish live in water ... and... nothing can separate us from the love of God.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 12:16 PM Blase Sands via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thank you, Jim!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-8437818856029176727Signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Blase Sands</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>7575 Sarah Drive</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Denver, NC 28037</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:blase_sands@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>blase_sands@hotmail.com</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Cell: 505-660-0056</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="m_-8437818856029176727divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> OE <</span><a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><span style='color:black'>> on behalf of James Wiegel via OE <</span><a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><span style='color:black'>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 31, 2023 1:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Colleague Dialogue Listserve <</span><a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><span style='color:black'>>; OE Listserve <</span><a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><span style='color:black'>><br><b>Cc:</b> James Wiegel <</span><a href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a><span style='color:black'>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Oe List ...] Searching for a paper</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>For whatever reason, I am being pushed to reconsider the other world. I found a paper by Tillich (see attached) and I remember a paper, I believe by Niebuhr called "We live in 2 worlds" or something that we studied. Anyone recall?? Have a copy?? I checked the Global Research Network website and also the online data base and was unable to find it. Of course, now that I am 78, I have to wonder . .. did it actually exist?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>Thanks for any help. And, how are you all doing??<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>Over the past 6 weeks, I have been much reminded of one of the Old Testament readings from the daily office in RS-1 Amos 5:18-24. We fled from the heat in Arizona (114 avg in July) to Colorado and a tornado met us. We returned to Arizona and Hurricane Hillary just missed us. We went to a niece's wedding in Oregon and the venue was changed due to a wildfire evacuation order. Now we are back in Arizona, but a brother- and sister-in-law are stuck at an airport in Charlotte because of Hurricane Idalia . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://partnersinparticipation.com/james-wiegel/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1696008665000000&usg=AOvVaw0ZrQs-vtiBgSUdTp9swwCd" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Jim Wiegel </span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain sailing. John Lennon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>623-363-3277</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><a href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>jfwiegel@yahoo.com</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/&source=gmail-imap&ust=1696008665000000&usg=AOvVaw11BueEQtrp4OVZvPcBofGk" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>www.partnersinparticipation.com</span></a><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net&source=gmail-imap&ust=1696008665000000&usg=AOvVaw1IX2M68RjVWIOGNb4OajOQ" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Colleen Haithcock<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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