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Did you notice that the ICA-USA annual report referenced a song, and even embedded a link to the words? I wonder about (my archive hat is on here . . .) a small contest to identify those songs from our history still worth singing and then, maybe we could figure out how to attach a video or audio file to capture the experience.</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">2. There is your work and Ellie's -- I wonder who else is creating and what they are creating?</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">3. A gift of ours has been to find stuff in the culture around us and either take it directly because it nourishes or tweak (not twerk) it a bit to reveal something.</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">4. I wonder about poetry. Working on this "Last Chapter", the small collection "Poetry" (that was used in the CS-1 course and that we "borrowed" as well for the Imaginal Education Colloquy) has come back to me -- "Buffalo Bill's defunct, who used to . . ."; "Those that go searching for love . . ."; "The mosquito knows . . . " After 20 minutes or so with a group of people over breakfast and that poetry, everyone in the room knew what it was like to be living in the 20th Century. What if we shared around and gathered a new collection of poems aimed to welcome people into the adventure of this century? Jan Sanders and Lauren Brika Liga put together a session for the ToP annual gathering last March and started with a little activity that just got the whole group attending inside of the reality we are facing and acknowledging it . . .</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">5. Ken Kinney, one of the leaders in the effort to mobilize the ICA"s across Africa to focus on climate change, shared a poem he had found that might be a candidate. I will pull it out.</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">6. this is really on a different topic, but I spent the last hour listening to Ben Sasse making his case for the future of the conservative movement / republican party. a lot of food for thought. "build a the self-confidence of the American people to navigate this brave new world we are in"</div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;"><br></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;"><br></div><div style="letter-spacing: normal; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlotro2zVMU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_5147573158">A Time for Choosing with Senator Ben Sasse</a></div><div><br></div><div id="ydp74eaffbenhancr_card_5147573158" class="ydp74eaffbyahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp74eaffbymail-preserve-class ydp74eaffbymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" data-url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlotro2zVMU" data-embed-url="https://www.youtube.com/embed/vlotro2zVMU?feature=oembed" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlotro2zVMU" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important" class="ydp74eaffbyahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydp74eaffbcard-wrapper ydp74eaffbyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydp74eaffbcard ydp74eaffbyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td class="ydp74eaffbcard-primary-image-cell" background="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/nrhC7DHbqeXhjlbmfGZP9g--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vlotro2zVMU/hqdefault.jpg.cf.jpg" bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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On Friday, June 3, 2022, 05:31:31 PM MST, Milan Hamilton <mellowmilan2@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp17956551yiv8519209208"><div>Thanks Jim. MM<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><div id="ydp17956551yiv8519209208yqtfd91086" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208yqt7062782646"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 3, 2022, at 3:40 PM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div><div id="ydp17956551yiv8519209208yqtfd76939" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208yqt7062782646"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydpce1032c8yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir="ltr">MILAN -- THIS IS WONDERFUL!!!</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydpce1032c8signature"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><a shape="rect" href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jim Wiegel</a> <br clear="none"><p dir="ltr" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"> </p><div> <span></span><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydp209e23c4MsoNormal"><span>The
unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody
scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all
that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain
sailing. <span> </span>John Lennon</span></p><br clear="none"></div><p></p><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white;">401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">623-363-3277</span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydp17956551yiv8519209208ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.partnersinparticipation.com</a></span></span></p></div></div></div>
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On Monday, May 23, 2022, 07:43:43 PM MST, Karenbueno via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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<div style="font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid blue;padding-left:3px;"> The lyrics are attached. Thank you, Milan! Great composition, great pictures on the you tube. Karen Bueno</blockquote></div>
<span style="font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:small;">Here is the link to Homo Colossus Lament: </span><a shape="rect" href="https://youtu.be/5X2MJwJFY40" style="font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:small;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/5X2MJwJFY40</a><br clear="none">
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<div style="color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:10pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Thanks for sharing your video song, Milan--that says it all. Could you please post/email the lyrics in poetry form?
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<div>Time for an Ecozoic acoustic folk music revolution. Karen Snyder has some ideas about this. </div>
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<div>Folks, send your songs to the list serves!</div>
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<div><span style="background-color:transparent;font-size:10pt;">Ellie :)</span><br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">I've been pondering for some time how those who care in these times of failing systems and "great unraveling" sustain themselves. We always had the singing whenever we gathered. I've wondered if singing can still be a sustaining dynamic in these diasporate times. I've turned to writing poetry after running out of prose, finding it a bit too prosaic. And recently, after listening to Ellie Stock's "Let the Earth Breathe" several times, begun to think and feel after a way to have some 'singable' songs, to both take in the seriousness of our predicament, and to try to lighten the load as we grieve our way through the great transition we are surely well into. Thanks to Ellie and her crew, Michael Dowd and his Post Doom, Post Gloom work, and William Catton and his "Overshoot," introducing us to the Homo Colossus we have become as a result of our industrial revolution. This song, "Homo Colossus Lament" was also inspired by the song I remember singing back in the 1950s at summer camp, "Oh They Built the Ship Titanic." The lyrics I wrote follow the P.M. Adamson version of that tune, found on YouTube. My guitar picking fingers are a little more still and my singing voice is not as pure as it once was. So maybe Ellie or one of you musicians could have made a better singable cover of it. I hope there might be more "Singalongs for Collapsing Times" to come.
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<div>Here is the link to Homo Colossus Lament: <a shape="rect" href="https://youtu.be/5X2MJwJFY40" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/5X2MJwJFY40</a></div>
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