<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Beautifully illuminating as always, Marshall.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Gratefully, Ken</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2021, at 1:46 PM, W. J. via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--><div class=""><div class="ydpb5ff9a08yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Of course I have to add something to this!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Somewhere JWM pointed out that part of what he called 'essential dubiety' is "being <i class="">onto</i> yourself."</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">It's knowing that finally, <i class="">you know</i> you're a fake.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Even after getting your PhD or whatever. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">And giving up forever your innocent entitlement to think so highly of your false sense of 'integrity.'</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Like "111 fights and never took a dive!"</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">So that you can finally surrender to God "the deed that has become necessary, and is nevertheless . . . free . . ." </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">And see that even Jesus, who was his disciples' Lord and Master, was, at some level, a fake.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">The disciples knew it, because they knew Mister High and Mighty had to take a shit every day just like everybody else.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">And Jesus knew he was a fake Messiah, even as he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey and was mocked as 'King of the Jews.'</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Giving up his moral integrity as a pacifist was necessary for Bonhoeffer to be radically free to participate in the plot to assassinate Hitler. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">And to accept his own death as the consequence.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Finally deciding to play 'the Role' that <i class="">you know</i> you're essentially unqualified for allows you, nevertheless, to participate in bending history.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">So who cares that Martin Luther King, Jr. and Jack Kennedy and Bill Clinton screwed around (literally)?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Or that Joe and Lyn Mathews were alcoholics?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Marshall </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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On Wednesday, June 2, 2021, 09:19:24 AM PDT, Terry Bergdall <<a href="mailto:bergdall2@gmail.com" class="">bergdall2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="yiv7245364459" class=""><div class="">Wow, Marshall. Knowing that “essential dubiety” can be found on google has occasioned for me another visit to the Other World. Terry<br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"><div class=""><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"><blockquote class="yiv7245364459" type="cite"><div class="yiv7245364459yqt8874392432" id="yiv7245364459yqt97148"><div class="yiv7245364459">On Jun 2, 2021, at 10:48, W. J. via OE <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv7245364459" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv7245364459"><div class="yiv7245364459"><div class="yiv7245364459yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div class="yiv7245364459" dir="ltr">Who knew that Google would have an answer to every question!</div><div class="yiv7245364459" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"></div><div class="yiv7245364459" dir="ltr"><div class="yiv7245364459"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field-FM-16 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><h1 class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-content yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22page__title yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22title" style="border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(197, 197, 197);margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px 0px 4px;font-size:37px;line-height:51.79999923706055px;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:-1px;font-family:brandon-grotesque, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif !important;">Essential dubiety</h1></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field-FM-24 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-label-FM-24 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-label yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-label" style="border:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase;margin-top:15px !important;">DESCRIPTION: </div><span class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-content" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;">This is an awareness of the possibility that one may be the victim of the great cosmic charade - life is a joke. One is thrown into self-doubt even in moments of great victory: it simply cannot be true. In the book "The Magus" something like this happens when the main character realizes he is not the main character; or it is like discovering at the age of 25 that one is an adopted child, or a young child realizing that his parents have betrayed him. There is a haunting possibility that one's life may be the most painful tragic/comedy ever created.<br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459">A dimension of this experience is a sense of awe, that is fear and fascination. The fear is that nothing is legitimate about one's self. One is the jackass of history and somehow missing some clue as to what is really going on. The fascination is that although existence itself seems to be laughing at one and one does not know why, one finds one's self joining in the joke. The decision is to not die of shame; to stand before what is happening and not try to escape. After this it is no longer possible to believe that things are going to get better and better. There is a strange sense of selfhood as one knows there is nothing to lean on for support.<br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"></span></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field-FM-25 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-label-FM-25 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-label yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-label" style="border:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase;margin-top:15px !important;">CONTEXT: </div><span class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-content" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;">This state is number 13 in the ICA [Other World in the midst of this World].<</span></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field-FM-30 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field" dir="ltr" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-label-FM-30 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-label yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-label" style="border:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase;margin-top:15px !important;">BROADER: </div><span class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22field-content" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv7245364459" target="_blank" href="http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/development/12322340" title="Infinite passion" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0, 51, 102);outline:none;">Infinite passion</a></span></div></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field-FM-30 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field" dir="ltr" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field-FM-30 yiv7245364459ydp6f688d22views-field" dir="ltr" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;">from <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv7245364459enhancr_card_2777259623" target="_blank" href="http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/development/12331350" style="font-family:new times, serif;">Essential dubiety | Human Development | The Encyclopedia of World Problems</a></div><div class="yiv7245364459"><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"></div><div class="yiv7245364459link-enhancr-placeholder yiv7245364459enhancr_card_2777259623"></div><div class="yiv7245364459"><div class="yiv7245364459"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field-FM-16 yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><h1 class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9page__title yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9title yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-content" style="border-width:0px 0px 1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(197, 197, 197);margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px 0px 4px;font-size:37px;line-height:51.79999923706055px;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:-1px;font-family:brandon-grotesque, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif !important;">Infinite passion</h1></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field-FM-24 yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-label yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-label-FM-24 yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-label" style="border:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase;margin-top:15px !important;">DESCRIPTION: </div><span class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-content" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;">This is an experiential trek in the [Land of Mystery], within the ICA [Other World in the midst of this World], when the individual is aware of adoring being. The states are described in separate entries.<br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"></span></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field-FM-30 yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-label yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-label-FM-30 yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-label" style="border:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase;margin-top:15px !important;">BROADER: </div><span class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-content" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv7245364459" target="_blank" href="http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/development/12324340" title="Land of mystery" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0, 51, 102);outline:none;">Land of mystery</a><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"></span></div><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-field-FM-31" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Sans Arial, sans-serif;"><div class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-label yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9views-label-FM-31 yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-label" style="border:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase;margin-top:15px !important;">NARROWER: </div><span class="yiv7245364459ydp7f150ab9field-content" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv7245364459" target="_blank" href="http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/development/12331350" title="Essential dubiety" style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(0, 51, 102);outline:none;">Essential dubiety</a><br clear="none" class="yiv7245364459"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" class="yiv7245364459" target="_blank" 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