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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><p class="ydp22ffaaf7MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We are
probably part of many online groups, each requiring different kinds of participation.
This list serve connects me to an important community that has shaped me. So deaths,
births and other milestones; discussions on issues arising from our common history;
changing perceptions on what we as individuals and a community are about; book
studies, workshops and other events we can take part in are all important. Sometimes,
it’s easy to fall into the habit of venting where the list-serve becomes a
place to sound off and not a community to address. I’ve done it myself. So in
terms of improvement, some circumspection and the old question “What does the
group need to hear?” would help.</span></p></span><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, 28 April 2021, 08:48:20 am MYT, Robertson Work via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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Yes, the big question is what is the purpose of this list serve and what are the guidelines for participation. Is this an open dialogue of views on any topic of concern? Are we practicing honoring each voice? Are we offering our best ideas and experience? Are
we using any of our methods of facilitated conversations or planning? For a group primarily in our seventies and eighties, who years ago shared a common vision, mission, and methods, how do we care for each other in the final years of our lives? What have
you noticed about this list serve? How do you feel when you participate? What have you learned? How could the list serve be made even better? </div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;">Author page for my books: <a shape="rect" href="https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Robertson-Work/e/B075612GBF</a></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;">Blogsite: <a shape="rect" href="https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://compassionatecivilization.blogspot.com/</a></span><br clear="none">
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<div class="ydpc212bbbyiv4682619052yqt3952260176" id="ydpc212bbbyiv4682619052yqt05869"><div dir="ltr" id="ydpc212bbbyiv4682619052divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt;"><b>From:</b> OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of W. J. via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 27, 2021 5:28 PM<br clear="none">
<b>To:</b> Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none">
<b>Cc:</b> W. J. <synergi@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> [Oe List ...] "stoking fear and misinformation"</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Dr. Ryan Cole (whose video before Idaho lawmakers was posted by David Yost) has been accused of stoking "fear and misinformation." Not by me but by his medical colleagues. And reported on by our trusty local TV news. In Idaho, no less.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Plus <a shape="rect" class="ydpc212bbbyiv4682619052x_enhancr_card_0308951267" href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.factcheck.org%2F2021%2F04%2Fscicheck-idaho-doctor-makes-baseless-claims-about-safety-of-covid-19-vaccines%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2cec2552a6724a65009308d909c3c136%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637551558635101389%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kGrBOahWkx5NkVTqaC3Cqg%2BhNvmxzZPvmoCnRNFQaxA%3D&reserved=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
factcheck.com</a> has a more substantive article refuting Dr. Cole's claims, as Tim reported.</div>
<div>So this post is just a footnote that I hope stays within the bounds delineated by our trusty moderator who has declared the subject of "vaccine efficacy" off-topic.<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">That's my intent, even if I'm skating on the edge.</div>
<div dir="ltr">I did watch the Cole video. Carefully. And what I'd add to what you can read elsewhere about the medical facts is simply this: Dr. Cole was visibly and audibly
<b>angry</b>. At somebody and/or about something.</div>
<div dir="ltr">So I would invite you to take into account this BIG CLUE:</div>
<div dir="ltr">He seems to be <b>both</b> reflecting and stoking <b>fear</b> of the coronavirus and
<b>distrust</b> of the federal government's response. And since he's a professional communicator of medical facts, he can't be unaware that he's
<b>intentionally spreading disinformation</b>.</div>
<div dir="ltr">My conclusion: we should all be aware of <b>the emotional context</b> of this type of interpersonal communication. </div>
<div dir="ltr">And raise the question of <b>why</b> Dr. Cole <b>needs</b> to say these things. </div>
<div dir="ltr">And <b>why</b> <b>people</b> <b>need to believe</b> what he says, based on his medical credentials. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Or at least to be receptive to his distorted messages by turning off their built-in filter of
<b>skepticism</b> about his unsubstantiated medical claims.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Why any former Order member would be <b>susceptible</b> to a loss of his or her rational/scientific perception of the universe is frankly beyond my ability to offer an explanation. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Unless it is that our capacity for rational analysis is being <b>overwhelmed</b> by fear, uncertainty, and distrust.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Which can add up to a need to construct or adopt an <b>alternative theory</b> to fit our subjective perception of reality.</div>
<div dir="ltr">And that's how conspiracy theories get to grow in fertile soil.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Awareness and discussion of the process of how intentional disinformation is
<b>infecting</b> the body politic can't be irrelevant or "off-topic." IMHO.</div>
<div dir="ltr">So I would not encourage any type of <b>censorship</b> of what can be said here.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Censorship didn't work too well for guys like Martin Luther 500 years ago. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Even after the pope brought the hammer down on Luther's head.</div>
<div dir="ltr">So I would encourage us all to be both <b>bold</b> and <b>careful</b> in our reporting. We can get sloppy when we throw together or repeat a toxic mix of facts, fear, and biased opinion that ignores or distorts facts.</div>
<div dir="ltr">For me being accountable means living our lives before the gaze of our neighbor, who hopefully does not share our blind spots and will probably call us on them. Even if it has to happen by email.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Marshall</div>
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