<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><h4 style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 29px;"><strong style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px;">Thanks, Marshall, for the reference and for the comments. I keep going back to Reinhold Niebuhr’s Moral Man and Immoral Society where he spelled out the distinction between “individual morality” and the ways in which groups of people worked. One of his points was that trying to apply individual moral methods (reconciliation, change of heart, being a better person, etc.) in collective situations had only limited effectiveness. When I do attend “church” I get overtaken with the emphasis on personal salvation. See below a few paragraphs on the shift from the personal to the sociological — this from a talk to a Rotary Club (I think) in Bombay/Mumbai. I do not know how to communicate this distinction — systemic racism is a social process problem,</strong></h4><h4 style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 29px;"><strong style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px;"><br></strong></h4><h4 style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 18px; line-height: 29px;"><strong style="border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px;">Did You Know?</strong></h4><p style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; line-height: 28px; caret-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); color: rgb(119, 119, 119); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">Often, when you bring people in to talk about human relations, they take a psychologistic approach: How can you best manipulate people in order to get the most out of your investment? When you live in a relatively stable moment of history, that may be all right; but when you live in a moment when civilization is exploding, then you have to drill much deeper if you are going to bring about human motivity. In the slums of West Chicago we would not have lasted five minutes with the psychologistic approach to human motivity. We had to dig underneath it.</p><p style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; outline: 0px; line-height: 28px; caret-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); color: rgb(119, 119, 119); font-family: Roboto, sans-serif;">One of the great things the crisis of the hour has done for us is to force us to re-think the theoretics of inclusive human relations; or, to use technical language, to re-think the sociological manifestation of the sociality of man. By the sociality of man, I mean that we have to live together. By the sociological manifestation, I mean the forms we create in which we can operate with some degree of effectiveness and efficiency together. What we have come up with in our day is dynamical sociality. In every social situation, in business or production, this new understanding is manifesting itself. No longer is society understood substantialistically. In the natural sciences of the world today, nobody ever saw, or will ever see an atom. The reality is the relationship, not the entity. </p><div><br></div><a href="https://icaglobalarchives.org/collections/analyzing-social-dynamics/social-process-model/">https://icaglobalarchives.org/collections/analyzing-social-dynamics/social-process-model/</a><div><br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Jim Wiegel</span><br><div>
<p class="p1"><span class="s1" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">“We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “ </span><span style="font-size: 13pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Stephen Hawking</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 1, 2020, at 6:11 AM, John C via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Profound! < Jack and Marshall !<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WE ARE the PEOPLE sent to EARTH…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">OE <oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, August 31, 2020 at 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jack Gilles <jackcgilles@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Oe List ...] Beyond 'Reconciling' conversations: How Black Lives Matter is changing the church<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Your posts are always a great read and spoken with profound (and colorful!) wisdom. So first I want to thank you for what you have said. I believe, like you, we don’t have an “Answer”, but we do know in what
domain the answer does lie (We were called “The People of the Question”). As our song goes; “Methods and Spirit are what we bring”. So what is “the question” we need to be focused upon, and just how could we (elders for the most part) move beyond just saying
something, writing something, or leading people to historical wisdom, like we are trying to do with the Archives Research Project? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">One of our Methods was to collectively do the Ritual response: "Now is the time.” We said it three times, each with a different word emphasis. We did the same with the response:
<b>WE</b> are the People!, We <b>ARE </b>the People!, We are the <b>PEOPLE!</b> I will only speak to the first part of the ritual.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">NOW is the time</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">! Do not wait, for, "Action removes the doubt that theory can not solve.” This is not about running off and doing something. It means that one moves;
which for me is about Timing. We talk about that in our 5 modes of Strategy: Intensive, Extensive, Probe, Flank and Void. Always moving, but guided by the ever-shifting situation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Now IS the time! </span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">This means that it is always Now. Past-Present-Future are in every moment. Time measures our, and the world’s, journey. But the Eternal Now is
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Now is the TIME! </span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt"> This means that right now there is a Destinal Moment for (how long, I do not know) when consciousness is rising, TWC are connecting, acting and
learning. This is what the gift of Rob Work’s term "Movements of Movements”(MOM) points too. Everywhere, there is a quickening, a connecting and a discovery of responding to a Turn that has been happening, but now is announcing there is no “return to a new
normal” or final answers. But mobilizing all these diverse, and focused movements is not the way to go (go ahead and build coalitions) but also going Down, deeper, until the Transparency of all authentic responses is seen. Tough job!! I experience this most
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Finally, I just want to inform and witness to my personal response to the above. Each of us is on the same Journey, but not the same Path. So my response is just that; my response. I try and live with being
a Person of the Question. I listen more (new capacity!!) and give advice less (second new capacity). I have no idea of what anyone should “do”, but I warn them all, “Speak with your Interior Council and listen for the response. If they tell you what “to do”,
pay them no mind. Ask them what question I should be addressing?"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">!. Living in the Awe-full world. Each day, each encounter, each situation I experience the Awe. I have moved from Visits to the Other World, to being a Citizen of the Other World. (See JWM’s talk in Vol. I
of <i>Bending History</i> on the NRM and the gaps. I have moved from the Outer Circle to the Middle Circle.This is the real Vocational discovery. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">2. Being on the Archives Research Team (And what a glorious Team it is!!). I believe the People we can best serve and enable are the MOM’s Rob Work speaks of. The key is creating the window for them to enter.
It must resonate with their sense of being in a Truning Point of History, with an urgency to respond to a “never return” awareness. I believe this needs to be more bold then subtle, but again, the Question, not the Answer. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">4. I have decided to throw my one life, all my resources and all my talents into bringing into being, into Form, what I sense is being called for. Our Team is calling this place, near my home in Litibu,
<b>The Wayside Inn</b>. This Call, came to me suddenly, waking one morning in January with a clear message: "Buy and build the place and space you have known about.” As Bill Cosby said: “R-i-g-h-t. What’s a Wayside Inn??” Or maybe you prefer Fields of Dreams, “If
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Third Campaign; Caring for the awakened and engaged ones of the world.” The Wayside Inn gate archway will have on it "The Wayside Inn", along with the Spanish phrase underneath: "Posada de Camino Refugio por Vida” (Shelter for Life), with a steel flame lamp
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">I write as a long term survivor of the Civil Rights Movement. Though I was gassed by the cops during Durham's 1960</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> sit-ins
at </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">segregated Woolworth lunch counters, and experienced 1964's Mississippi Freedom Summer without getting shot at, and photographed <a href="https://methodistthinker.com/2012/01/16/mlks-address-to-the-methodist-student-movement/" target="_blank">MLK
speaking at the Methodist Student Movement in 1964</a> for <i>New World Outlook</i> without incident, and staffed the NCC-sponsored Student Interracial Ministry while working for the Methodist Board of Missions</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> at
475 Riverside Drive, NYC, from 1964 until 1967, I was not fully immersed in a radical corporate response to racial injustice until the assassinations of Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy in 1968 propelled me from the quiet environs of Hinton Rural Life Center in
Clay County, NC to the burned-out inner city of Chicago's West Side when I joined the staff of <a href="https://icaglobalarchives.org/collections/institutes-history/training-church-leaders/" target="_blank">The Ecumenical Institute</a>.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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community. With our unquestioned assumptions of White Privilege, we were sitting ducks. We may have been naive, but fortunately we survived the fires and contributed to the transformation of that devastated neighborhood into the 5th City Model of how to care
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Even with the perspective of my unusual life history, I continue to struggle with how much I enjoy and take for granted my White Male Privilege, which, together with my economic
privilege, has kept me feeling relatively safe and secure into my old age.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">As I mark eighty thousand miles on my birthday next month, I'm left wondering whether I personally--and we as a group--have done enough to date as cultural, historical,
and epidemiological waves collide and flood over us, washing us up onto an unknown shore.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">And whether I, and we, need to be doing something different at this unprecedented moment. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">In the poetry of <a href="http://www.public-domain-poetry.com/d-h-lawrence/new-heaven-and-earth-22955" target="_blank">D.H. Lawrence</a>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"> Ha, I was a blaze leaping up!<br> I was a tiger bursting into sunlight.<br> I was greedy, I was mad for the unknown.<br> I, new-risen, resurrected, starved from the tomb<br> starved from a life of devouring always myself<br> now here was I, new-awakened, with my hand stretching out<br> and touching the unknown, the real unknown, the unknown unknown.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Perhaps having quiet, comfortable, and inviting conversations with select, non-confrontational representatives of other racial communities is not enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">If we learn how to step out of our cultural frame of reference and listen more deeply and daringly to what others may be bold enough to say--and only if they can trust us--perhaps <i>even
that much</i> is not enough.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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refuge in the humility of acknowledging that, in the words of JFK in 1961, "the torch is passed to a new generation."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The unanswered question in my mind is whether our "new generation" has been adequately prepared in depth to meet the challenges of the rest of the 21st century. And whether
"the old folks" including myself need to do WAY more to challenge them to carry the torch of individual freedom, radical inclusion, and profound humanness. And to invent with them the tools to do the job.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Historical footnote: In 2016 David P. Cline published <i><a href="https://uncpress.org/book/9781469630434/from-reconciliation-to-revolution/" target="_blank">From Reconciliation
to Revolution: the Student Interracial Ministry, Liberal Christianity, and the Civil Rights Movement</a></i>. His choice of title offers insights into how our history has swept us forward from our culturally biased responses of previous decades to confront
their limitations and dare to invent responses that are new and different in the Now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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