<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpa5017036yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>I like Ma's low better!  </div><div>Have always felt that </div><div>Bultmann's paragraphs               mirror                Ma's low-- </div><div>every day care for the morrow                        physical needs/safety</div><div>desire for love                                                  belonging</div><div>thirst for knowledge / impulse to action and work      self esteem, self actualization</div><div>idea of duty -- you can for you ought                  self transcendence</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpa5017036signature"><a href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jim Wiegel</a>  <br><p class="ydpa5017036MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;line-height:18.3999996185303px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky."  Nikos Kazantzakis</span></p><br><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white;">401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><p class="ydpa5017036MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">623-363-3277</span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="ydpa5017036MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="ydpa5017036MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;"><a href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.partnersinparticipation.com</a></span></span></p></div></div>
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                    On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 7:03:03 AM MST, Judi White <sophiacircle@gmail.com> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686"><div><div>O for heaven's sake. That's Maslow not Ma's low. Just posted, as a retired counselor/therapist, a tiny discovery that another psychologist beside Assagioli had acknowledged the value of spirituality in a human's health and well being. I'm sure Rudolph' s super mundane reality would appreciate the collegiality of another perspective in a different field. Both seemed to be able to transcend ego. </div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686yqt9440229292" id="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686yqt91084"><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:10 PM James Wiegel <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div>They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Jim Wiegel</div><div><a shape="rect" style="font-size:13pt;">401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353</a></div><div><font color="#000000">Tel.</font><span style="font-size:13pt;"> </span><a shape="rect" style="font-size:13pt;">011-623-936-8671</a><span style="font-size:13pt;"> </span><span style="font-size:13pt;">or</span><span style="font-size:13pt;"> </span><a shape="rect" style="font-size:13pt;">011-623-363-3277</a></div><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</font></a></div><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">www.partnersinparticipation.com</font></a></div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt.  "But that is not what great ships are built for."   Clarissa Pinkola Estes</div></div></div><div><br clear="none">On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sophiacircle@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sophiacircle@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge! </div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp5ff5012yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div><span></span><div style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;line-height:12.0pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.1pt;">HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .</span></b></div><div style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;line-height:12.0pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.1pt;"><br clear="none"></span></b></div><div style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph;line-height:12.0pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;letter-spacing:-.1pt;">It
is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who allows
his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a terminus to
his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the guilty over to
torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man into life and drives
him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love in his heart; who gives
him thoughts and strength for his work, and who places him in the eternal struggle
be­tween self-assertion and duty. God is the enigmatic power beyond time, yet
master of the temporal: beyond being, yet working in it.</span></b></div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp5ff5012signature"><a shape="rect" href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jim Wiegel</a>  <br clear="none"><p class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp5ff5012MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;line-height:18.3999996185303px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);">“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky."  Nikos Kazantzakis</span></p><br clear="none"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white;">401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><p class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp5ff5012MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">623-363-3277</span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp5ff5012MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p class="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp5ff5012MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.partnersinparticipation.com</a></span></span></p></div></div>
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                    On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydpbdb900ebyiv2338117686m_-3898102541480173230m_6404191112005571416ydp55625487yiv4567677671"><div><a shape="rect" href="https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-layer/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-layer/</a><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it. Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy New Year of the joyous Pig  - coming up soon and already begun in some places. </div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">OE mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none"></div>
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