<div dir="ltr">I would suggest John, that the news people who ask HOW don't get the reflective, but beginning interpretive, because in our culture the how question begs for explanation, not reaction. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, John Epps via OE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yes, the Reflective level is important since our emotional responses are clues to what's going on. But I'm not sure how unique we are to consider that level. Consider the news interviews: "How did that make you feel?" "How did you feel when...?". Asians consider their feelings to be nobody else's business, but we in the West seem to relish parading them for all to see! <div><br></div><div>Anyway it is a crucial level to address in the ORID conversation format and takes us below the surface.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Randy Williams via OE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Jack and Seth,</div><div><br></div><div>You are correct, and Meg even says as much. Here’s what she says about the second question (slightly adapted.): People offer their <u>interpretations</u>, which are explored for diversity and commonalities. This reveals a great deal of information beyond the incident. The culture becomes visible around hierarchy, communications and trust.</div><div><br></div><div>Here’s her commentary on the third question: Here is where the richness of diverse perceptions can be shaped into learning outcomes that build on the complexity of the situation rather than overly simplified analysis.</div><div><br></div><div>I really think what she has structured here is a format for dialogue, which the physicist David Bohm called conversations for the sake of learning. </div><div><br></div><div>I do agree that perhaps our most unique contribution to this method was the reflective step. </div><span class="m_-6175674338439121594HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Randy</div></font></span><div><div class="m_-6175674338439121594h5"><div><br>On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Jack Gilles via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Randy,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Her `R`question seems to be interpretive to me. I think it is hard for most people to see the necessity of the Reflective level. People don’t know how to process emotional responses or associative events. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Jack</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:00, Randy Williams via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Colleagues,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In her new book Who Do We Choose To Be: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, Restoring Sanity, Margaret Wheatley has her own articulation of ORID in four questions which she calls an After Action Review. They are:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>O—What just happened?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>R—Why do you think it happened?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I—What can we learn from this?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>D—How will we apply these learnings?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>We have always said that our methods are “life” methods,. Therefore, we didn’t create them, we discovered them. Each time I come across something like this from Wheatley it confirms that they are indeed “life” methods. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I’ve seen other variations of ORID—for example from Peter Senge, in Catholic social theory, and even from my old professor of church history, Albert Outler. His articulation was, for me, the most memorable, in just three, not four, short questions: What? So What? Now What?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As some of you who also sat with him will recall, Outler was not always so concise. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Randy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OE mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br><span>OE mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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