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<div>In the PC(USA), our son's church in the Cleveland, OH area just became a sanctuary church. PC(USA) church we attend since retirement is an open, welcoming, becoming more diverse congregation, with multifaceted local outreach to the community--racial justice, food justice, environment, transition from prison ministry, girl scouts, fair trade, minimum wage, etc.</div>
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From: George Holcombe via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
To: Mr. Marshall Jones <synergi@yahoo.com>; James Wiegel via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
Cc: George Holcombe <geowanda1@me.com>; ICA Dialogue Dialogue <ica-dialogue@igc.topica.com><br>
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<div class="aolReplacedBody" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Good go Marshall, should be an interesting and promising event. My take on the UMC is that it went off the rails a while back by adopting a business model, more members - more money, disguised behind the notion of making disciples. Unfortunately, few had any real training in what the Xian faith was all about. Fortunately, there are clergy and congregations striving to live the faith. We have a growing number of reconciling congregations in the Austin area (plus several sanctuary congregations) and some clergy and laity who are making quite a witness. Sadly the Bishops and “leaders” with a few exceptions are lagging and tied to a failing model. We have a Presbyterian church in our neighborhood, St. Andrews, Jim Rigby, pastor, who currently houses an immigrant family and is inclusive.
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<div>Let us know how the conversation comes out.</div>
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"Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." Margaret Wheatley<br>
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<div>On Oct 20, 2017, at 12:20 PM, W. J. via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_66785">Sometimes, even after we're been put out to pasture, the old guard is called upon to teach our tried and true old stuff to a new crowd.</div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_67982">So here's my latest simplified take on how to structure a movie conversation--boiled down from the Golden Pathways, but with a few updates ("Where did you see transformation in the movie?").</div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_68129">Turns out there wasn't anything this simple in the archives that I could find.</div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_68120">So tonight I'm facilitating a planning/screening group that will develop a film discussion series for a local church.</div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_68179">Given that it's a UMC--with all the angst and cultural warfare that's been swamping us--the topic will be 'human sexuality.'</div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_68198">Next Wednesday we kick off the series with a screening of <a class="aolmail_edited-link-editor aolmail_enhancr2_f0a37a5e-c5da-9149-db04-2d0735c98de3" id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_68380" href="http://www.anactoflovefilm.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">An Act of Love</a>.</div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_68402" dir="ltr">Here's the key conversation questions I came up with (for Methodists who are moved to show the film):<br>
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<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72139" dir="ltr"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72140"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72141" size="3">What for you was the key human issue in the film? (get a variety of answers from across the group)<br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72142"></font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72143"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72144"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72145" size="3">What triggered the underlying conflict in this church?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72146"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72147"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72148" size="3">What was this conflict <i id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72149">really</i> about? (push for deeper insights here)<br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72150"></font></b></div>
<b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72151"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72152" size="3">How was the conflict handled or <i id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72153">not</i> handled by the conference leadership? <br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72154"></font></b>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72155"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72156"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72157" size="3">How did you respond emotionally to the film?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72158"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72159"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72160" size="3">What emotions did you notice?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72161"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72162"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72163" size="3">Did you feel sleepy? wide awake? distracted? uncomfortable? upset? bored? relaxed? on the edge of your seat? or what?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72164"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72165"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72166" size="3">What in the film made you feel that way?<br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72167"></font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72168" dir="ltr"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72169"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72170" size="3">Where did you notice the group's emotional response?<br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72171"></font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72172"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72173"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72174" size="3">How would you be a reconciling presence in Frank Shaefer's church?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72175" dir="ltr"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72176"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72177" size="3">Imagine
that you are the bishop. As a minister of reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:18),
what would you say to the members of this church who were opposed to
Frank Shaefer?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72178"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72179"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72180" size="3">As
a bishop, how would you honor a rule in the Discipline with which you
fundamentally disagree? (incongruence/paradox/double bind)<br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72181"></font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72182"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72183"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72184" size="3">Where did you see transformation in the film?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72185"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72186"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72187" size="3">Where did you see hope in the film?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72188"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72189"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72190" size="3">Where did you see Divine Activity (or the work of the Holy Spirit) happening in the film?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72191" dir="ltr"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72192"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72193" size="3">What do you see as Frank Shaefer's true calling? What did he discover about God's intention for him?<br id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72194"></font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72195"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72196"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72197" size="3">What have you realized about your true calling?</font></b></div>
<div id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72198"><b id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72199"><font id="aolmail_yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1508502076017_72200" size="3">What has deepened your understanding of your true calling?</font></b></div>
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