<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Jack,</div><div>Another take on the flow of civilization is Jeremy Rifkin’s account of the move from the first, to the second, to now the third industrial revolution. His premise is that these shifts take place every time a new energy regime arises and coincides with the emergence of new communications technology. For example, what he says has given rise to the Third Industrial Revolution is the emergence of alternative energies in concert with the internet and digital communications. </div><div>Randy</div><div><br>On Oct 20, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Jack Gilles <<a href="mailto:jackcgilles@gmail.com">jackcgilles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">Randy,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Meg always does a good job of communicating her understanding of how things happen. It does indeed give a deeper meaning to the term Pioneer. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I was thinking that it would be a good collegium (and Research) to bring all the images of the flow of civilisation that we have either created or encountered and have them on one time line and see where the similarities and differences are. I have always been intrigued with Malachi Martin’s image that the shifts have been marked by a birth of Spirit that captures the imagination and hearts of those living in those places. And the residue is to be found in the great remnants of the people’s attempt to give form to that spirit and understanding. But it moves on, leaving the form, which can never be captured in stone. In 1975 I participated in a conversation with Malachi in the Cleveland House and he shared the genesis of that idea he wrote about when working on Vatican II with Pope John. He also laid a claim and a promise upon those of us who were the OE. Powerful evening. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have studied (years ago) the rise and fall of civilisations in Mexico, primarily using the book “Burning Water”. Teotihuacan was such a place and the original people who broke that understanding loose created a pilgrimage spot for all of Meso-America. The original symbolism and rituals got perverted over hundreds of years and it died, but it was such a source of light and meaning for all who came. The people who did this have disappeared, but their insights were straight out of RS-I, “To Die is to Live”. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Another model of how the Spirit has moved throughout the history of is Bob Campbell’s work. <a href="http://www.cosmic-mindreach.com/Human_History.html" class="">http://www.cosmic-mindreach.com/Human_History.html</a> Note the last paragraph and see how we also felt the global commerce could lead us to a new society. I think that is what JWM had in mind when we first developed the NINS Course, which became the LENS program. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> I feel this is one of the edges those of us working on the archives could bring into source of creative dialogue. My two cents, excuse me, my two centavos!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jack</div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 20, 2017, at 09:05, Randy Williams via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">I ran across this in the appendix of Meg Wheatley’s new book, Who Do We Choose To Be. It’s from a piece by Sir John Glubb on”The Six Ages of a Civilization’s Growth and Collapse.” The 1st age is the Age of Pioneers.<br class=""><br class="">“New pioneers or conquerors are usually poor, hardy, enterprising, and aggressive. They seem to appear from nowhere, surprising the dominant civilization. They possess fearless initiative, energy, and courage. The decaying empire that they overthrow is wealthy but defensive-minded. Pioneers are practical and experimental; action is their solution to every problem. They have strong virtues: optimism, confidence, devotion to duty, a sense of honor, shared purpose, and a strict moral code.”<br class=""><br class="">This gives me a new appreciation for the word. I wonder if HRN might have thought this to be an apt description for today of what he thought to be the “church” dynamic.<br class=""><br class="">Randy<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">OE mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></body></html>