<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Oh my! What conversation this one is becoming! Here is a poem that I read and saved some years ago. It comes to me as appropriate to this conversation.<br><br></div>KNEELING DOWN<br><br></div>A desire to kneel down sometimes pulses through my body <br></div>or rather, <br></div>it is as if my body has been meant and made for the act of kneeling.<br></div>Sometimes, in moments of deep gratitude,<br></div>kneeling own becomes an overwhelming urge,<br></div>head deeply bowed, hands before my face.<br><br></div>Etty Hillesum<br></div>"An Interrupted Life"<br><br></div>With love and gratitude, <br><br></div>Nancy<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:57 AM, McCabe, Diann A via OE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div id="m_8567740747896858163AppleMailSignature">MORE ON TAKING A KNEE: "Borrowed from Gail Larsen: </div>
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<div id="m_8567740747896858163AppleMailSignature">Our country is injured - take a knee!!</div>
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<div id="m_8567740747896858163AppleMailSignature">Sam, age 15 "Mom, I don't understand the outrage over people taking a knee. It's actually the most patriotic thing one can do when our anthem plays right now." </div>
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<div id="m_8567740747896858163AppleMailSignature">I asked him to explain his train of thought.</div>
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<div id="m_8567740747896858163AppleMailSignature">"My coach taught me you take a knee when a player is down from any team. You do it as a sign of respect and send energy to that player that he can not only get up, but not have an injury that he can't overcome. You're thanking him
for a game hard played and hope he can join it soon. Both teams want the game to begin again, knowing their players are going to be ok and united in a show of comaraderie.</div>
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<div id="m_8567740747896858163AppleMailSignature">Anyone with half a brain knows our country is injured, we have people down. It's time for all sides to take a knee and focus their energy on helping the injured so the game can go on. Our team, the U.S., is actually disrespectful
if we stand and cheer while we have players down. I love my team, I care for its players. When the anthem plays I will take a knee and send energy to healing so that the team can play on."</div>
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