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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;">Thanks, Karen, for putting this model together. I think your suggested substitute should be Verse 1, line 1. We could also say “the heavens” which to me implies the thundering heavens when a storm is approaching with its rushing winds. You just have to say it really quickly to keep the rhythm. This has been a spirited dialogue. <br>
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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;">Here is what I suggest, with one further suggestion below the last verse: PENECOST HYMN Tune: There's New World Coming Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to all The young see visions and the old dream dreams Born of fire, filled with power, for Earth’s call. To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear Building from the ashes into one community Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict Born of fire, filled with power, for Earth’s call. With despair abounding and a lack of hope around Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death Born of fire, filled with power, for Earth’s call. For the coming ages and the journey of mankind We claim the promise that the fire give life to them Deciding freely to live on behalf of all <br>
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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;">On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Jean Long <<a href="mailto:jean.long512@gmail.com">jean.long512@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;">I know we have tried hard to substitute new words for what might be seen as sexist or even “two story”. But is important to understand that if you are in the realm of the meaning of words you are in the left brain’s domain. Yes, when speaking or writing about things this can be not only helpful, but very important.<br>
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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;">But a song is about the Singing, not just the words. For singing (and poetry) is a method to reach the right brain, the spiritual domain, and one sings from the heart, allowing the words to flow with a deep awareness of any words inadequacy to speak about our relationship to the Mystery. But try we must try not to communicate an offence or “untruth” if we can. I think we did a pretty good job for the most part in our great songs, including our ability to sing some old hymns with transparency and profound understanding. <br>
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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;"><b>Date: </b>Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:18 AM<br>
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<div dir="auto" style="direction: ltr; margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: black; background-color: white;">PENECOST HYMN Tune: There's New World Coming Like the sound of heaven with the rushing of the wind Came the fire a-burning and new life was given to all The young see visions and the old dream dreams Born of fire, filled with power, for the world. To the light from darkness, and to freedom from fear Building from the ashes into one community Peter, Paul, and Luther, Augustine and Benedict Born of fire, filled with power, for the world. With despair abounding and a lack of hope around Still the Spirit comes to the ones who birth the day Giving breath and being to the ones who give their death Born of fire, filled with power, for the world. For the coming ages and the journey of mankind We claim the promise that the fire give life to them Deciding freely to live on behalf of all <br>
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