<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Now I know-- Thanks Len.</div><div>I always enjoy the before and after Music..</div><div>Cheers from down here,</div><div>Isobel<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 18 Apr 2017, at 3:12 pm, Len Hockley via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Does everyone know the story of how we
got preludes and postludes in our services? It goes something
like:<br>
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In the reformation the Calvinists and others decided that there
would be no music in the service but that was the last straw for
many and so added music before and after.<br>
<br>
Len <br>
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On 4/17/2017 4:31 PM, Susan Fertig via OE wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Worship
music is such an interesting part of worship. “What Child is
This” was set to the music for “Greensleeves,” which was a
song about a prostitute. For many years churches refused to
allow organ music, considering it profane. Now organ music
is standard, but drums are still controversial in some
congregations. In my church, we have a very traditional Rite
I Eucharist at 8 am, a blended (mostly traditional) Service
at 9 am, and a contemporary Service at 11 am. The 8 am
Service is small (about 100 people); the 9 am and 11 am each
draw about 1,000 people on a normal Sunday. On Christmas and
Easter we add a Service to accommodate the “Chreasters” who
only come on those special days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
must admit that unconventional worship music was one of the
powerful draws for me in the Spirit Movement—my heart leapt
and danced and I was entranced. Then somewhere along the
way, in mainstream worship Services, I began to feel that
contemporary “Praise Music” was sort of “over the top” and
emotionally manipulative, or, as a Baptist friend put it,
“spirit candy.” I had to be wooed back to it over time (<i>2
Samuel</i> helped as I realized that David himself was
“over the top” in worship and dancing). Now one of my
favorite contemporary hymns is by the group Hillsong: “<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcnfT4arZtI">I
Surrender</a>” (it lifts my heart to renewed commitment
every time I hear it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In
terms of musical grandeur that seems inconsistent with the
NT lifestyle and “more appropriate to royalty than to us,”
as you put it, I don’t really have any difficulty with
that—it seems only natural that we would offer the best of
the artistry available to us for worship, the best of our
creativity for the Creator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#080808"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan
Fertig-Dykes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">(personal
email account)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And the Lord
shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in
drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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MS";color:#080808"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Protect
against email address harvesting:<br>
Use "BCC" when sending to multiple addresses; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">delete
senders’ E-Mail addresses when forwarding.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">NOTE: I won’t be
offended if you ask me to remove you from my emails.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> OE
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Epps via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 17, 2017 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Thomas Morrison <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:2tjmorrison@gmail.com"><2tjmorrison@gmail.com></a>;
Order Ecumenical Community <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><oe@lists.wedgeblade.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Easter Reflections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Easter
Reflection #2:</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’ve
never heard anything like it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
ordinary mode of beginning the Sunday worship service at
Montview Presbyterian Church is the sound of chimes after
which the congregation is invited to quietly make the
transition from getting there to being there. This Sunday,
being Easter, the sanctuary was overflowing with people
enthusiastically greeting each other with churchy cordiality
and requests from the front to move closer together in the
pews to accommodate more people. I was sitting quietly
waiting for the chimes, hoping to be able to hear them over
the din, and looking forward to a few moments of silence to
absorb the beauty of the surroundings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Suddenly
from the choir loft came a deafening crash of cymbals
followed by a brass and organ fanfare that filled the gothic
architecture with ear-splitting wonder that lasted a full 5
minutes. After the final grand chord, the congregation was
speechless. The impact was powerful and profound, setting
the tone for something grand about to happen. For me, if
nothing else occurred during the service, the Easter wonder
had happened.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
piece was Grand Choeur Dialogue by Eugene Gigout; you can
find it at:
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufxt80iVA0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufxt80iVA0</a><span style="color:#006621">
</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">But
that was only the first musical treat. The brass and organ
and choir continued their gift of awe-producing sounds
during the hymns, anthem, and offertory anthem.
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtIRp3Vglw"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtIRp3Vglw</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#006621">
</span>was the anthem.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">By
the time we left, I was done in, having experienced
something of a resurrection.<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#006621"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Since
then,<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
</span>I’ve been wrestling with the thought that such
grandeur was not at all like the lifestyle portrayed in the
New Testament. Though it clearly portrays the significance
of the Easter event for Christians, the music and setting
seemed more appropriate to royalty than to us. Recent Public
TV shows featuring Henry VIII picture a setting in which
this type of music would have been right at home. Maybe the
point is that awe happens in the midst of the ordinary as
surprises sometime break through that are not of our doing.
If, as I have contended elsewhere, surprises are where we
are confronted by Mystery, that certainly happened at the
Denver Montview Presbyterian Church (a former Galaxy church
once co-pastored by Ken Barley) on Easter Sunday, 2017.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Thomas
Morrison via OE <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Adding to the discussion . . .<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">We in the USA generally define
reality as having four dimensions: length, width,
height and time.<br>
It is a choice we have made, and is nicely
measureable with our existing instruments and chosen
senses.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mathematically we could have
five, six, whatever number of dimensions we
would want to explore.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">As far as our senses go, there
are others beyond the usual USA list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I bump into this as a psychiatric
therapist from time to time.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Again, I choose to pay attention
to the experiences or not, depending on how
important it is to the client (or me--grin).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom Morrison<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:52 AM,
Jack Gilles via OE <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susan,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy Easter to you as
well! I was wondering how you would describe
the dimension you speak of? I happen to agree
with you, but I use the term Void, which is
the eternal, existing along side the
time/space experience. The Other World in the
midst of this world.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Grace & Peace,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jack<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 16, 2017, at
12:14, Susan Fertig via OE <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Isn’t
your hip out of socket yet,
James? All that wrestling with
the Archangel…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Surrender
and rejoice, friend. The
Resurrection is real, not a
metaphor.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Neither
is it a 3-tiered universe;
just another dimension
altogether.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#080808"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan
Fertig-Dykes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">(personal
email account)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And
the Lord shall guide thee
continually, and satisfy
thy soul in drought .
Isaiah 58:11</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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Sans MS";color:#080808"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Sans MS";color:#080808"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Protect
against email address
harvesting:<br>
Use "BCC" when sending to
multiple addresses;<span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">delete
senders’ E-Mail addresses
when forwarding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">NOTE:
I won’t be offended if you
ask me to remove you from my
emails.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">OE [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>]<span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
Behalf Of<span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span></b>James
Wiegel via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,
April 16, 2017 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span>Mary
Kurian DSouza <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marykdsouza@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">marykdsouza@gmail.com</span></a>>;
Order Ecumenical Community
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Oe List ...] Easter
Reflections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you
for the reflections and the
reminiscences. I must admit I
am wrestling some this week
and still at Easter morn. We
get netflix dvds sent to us
and last night, as we paused
from getting ready for the
potluck we are hosting, we
watched the dvd we got in the
mail. Martin Scorceses
SILENCE, about Jesuit priests
on mission in Japan in the
1600's. Lots of persecutions,
apostasy as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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rebirth? Hmmmm. I read over
the christ lecture transcribed
in Bending History as well as
the bits of the gospels.
Deepened the wrestling. All
complicated by a 10 year old
grandson who has decided to be
baptized today. Have to stop
here and go hide easter eggs .
. .<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 15, 2017, at 19:52, Mary
Kurian DSouza via OE <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nancy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What a
lovely window of
remembrance to look
through<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank
you for sharing. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mary<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 16-Apr-2017, at 6:36 AM,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I
vividly remember Easter
mornings in the OKC RH
with Bill & Marianna
Bailey. First of all,
Bill Bailey's resonating
wake-up accompanied by the
gong. Barb Garrison &
I played the Hallelujah
Chorus on the baby grand.
Breakfast included a huge
slab of salmon. Oh my
goodness -- If life had
caused you to need some
patching up, the best
prescription would be 4
years in the OKC RH with
Bill & Marianna.
Thank you for those
experiences, Marianna!<br>
All the best,<br>
Nancy Trask<br>
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Easter Reflections<o:p></o:p></p>
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have been
reminiscing...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does
anyone remember
Easter Sunday in the
Religious House? A
very special day for
the "wake up"
ritual.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marianna<o:p></o:p></p>
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at 4:00 PM,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank’s
John, for the
reminder.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;background:white"><br>
“And once the
storm is over
you won’t
remember how
you made it
through, how
you managed to
survive. You
won’t even be
sure, in fact,
whether the
storm is
really over.
But one thing
is certain.
When you come
out of the
storm you
won’t be the
same person
who walked in.
That’s what
this storm’s
all about”</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;background:white">~Haruki
Murakami</span></b><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif"><br>
<VIKING
copy.jpeg></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI
Symbol",sans-serif;color:#FF2600">❤</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Hobo
Std",sans-serif;color:#FF2600"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Hobo
Std",sans-serif;color:#0433FF">Frank</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Hobo
Std",sans-serif;color:#0433FF">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">On
Apr 15, 2017,
at 10:19 AM,
John Epps via
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">Coming
to terms with
the meaning<br>
of the Easter
story for us
is difficult
since times
and
world-views
have<br>
changed. We
find it
difficult even
to grasp what
it meant for
those who
first<br>
told it, much
less for us.
Yet we are
compelled to
try by Paul’s
admonition,<br>
“If Christ is
not raised,
then our faith
is in vain.”
(I Cor.
15:14)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">One
factor in the
story must be<br>
recognized:
this is a tale
of a bodily
resurrection,
not a
“spiritual”
one. The<br>
risen one
takes pains to
force people
to touch his
wounds and so
dispel the<br>
notion of an
ectoplasmic
appearance.
Whatever the
implications,
they are<br>
physical, this
worldly. The
second factor
is that
stories of
dying and
rising<br>
gods (or
superheroes)
were
widespread
throughout the
Ancient Near
East and<br>
ancient
Greece.<span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">So
what unique
implications
can<br>
we draw from
the story that
are important
today? Another
way to ask it
is<br>
“Where today
do we
experience
death and
resurrection?”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">Both
occur at the
individual,
natural,<br>
and corporate
levels. A word
about each:
Lately I have
“died” when
the classes<br>
I have taught
for 15 years
were
cancelled; I
was “raised”
when the
University<br>
called on me
for 3 new
classes. The
slow and
painful death
of a dear aunt
was<br>
followed by a
celebration
honoring her
life that
brought back
the wonder of
her<br>
artistry and
love. These
may seem
trivial
examples but
dramatize the
dynamics<br>
in the story:
Death/Resurrection happens to us all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">In
nature,
“Resurrection”
has<br>
long been a
metaphor for
the return of
plant life in
the Spring, at
least in<br>
the Northern
hemisphere.
And certainly,
the emergence
of leaves on
barren<br>
trees, of
green in brown
fields, and
flowers from
“dead” plants
seem quite<br>
miraculous.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">At
the corporate
level, the
death<br>
and dying
dynamic seems
much more
obvious that
does
resurrection.
Many of our<br>
hopes and
dreams died
with the
November
election. The
horrors and
complexity of<br>
the Middle
East conflicts
and the
appearance of
global warming
both represent
a<br>
death to life
as we have
known it. What
resurrection
will look like
remains to<br>
be seen.<span class="m-1371382113531302430m3969685334754093060apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">Numerous
efforts taken
for<br>
environmental
protection
certainly mark
an awakening
to the need
for change,<br>
but are faint
heralds of a
resurrected
life. Numerous
conferences
aimed at<br>
achieving some
sort of
resolution of
Middle East
conflicts so
far remain<br>
fruitless. As
the story
goes, it’s God
who does the
raising, not
us. And when<br>
it occurs,
it’s far
beyond our
expectations.
As I have said
elsewhere,
“Humankind has
unimaginable<br>
capacities to
screw things
up; yet
Mystery
generates
unaccountable
wonders out<br>
of our
messes.” (</span><em><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">Theology
of Surprise</span></u></b></em><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo Std",sans-serif">,<br>
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Hobo
Std",sans-serif">p. 39</span><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Hobo
Std",sans-serif">) Our current situation brings to<br>
mind a sermon
that we heard
in the
Philippines
during the
last days of
Marcos.<br>
It was
entitled “It
feels like
Friday, but
Sunday is
A-Coming!”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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we’re enmeshed
in the<br>
death or the
resurrection
part of the
dynamic, both
are operative.
That’s what<br>
Easter
celebrates.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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