<div dir="ltr">Hi Jo, <div> Art of focused conversation bibliography has Suzanne K Langer   Problems of Art, Simon and</div><div>Schuster, New York, 1985.      Archives in Chicago mention  both this book and Philosophy in a</div><div>New Key- a book they say they have in their archives. </div><div><br></div><div>Problems of Art was a series of lectures Suzanne gave.  </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div><div><br></div><div>Jeanette </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jo Nelson via OE <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi, all,</div><div><br></div>I’m getting down to completing the footnotes in Getting to the Bottom of ToP.<div><br></div><div>Here’s a quote for which I don’t have the specific source.  Can anybody help with this?  I need the book, publisher, date of publication, and if possible the page number.  </div><div><br></div><div>Take care,</div><div>Jo</div><div><br></div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="m_-4080064514402724295Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Ronnie Seagren <<a href="mailto:ronnie.seagren@gmail.com" target="_blank">ronnie.seagren@gmail.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Susanne Langer quote attribution</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">December 29, 2016 at 10:11:24 AM EST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Jo Nelson <<a href="mailto:jnelson@ica-associates.ca" target="_blank">jnelson@ica-associates.ca</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">You have to take the work of art
seriously by observing carefully what's there, and what's not. Then you have to
look just as seriously at what is going on inside you as you observe the art to
see how you are reacting, what repels you, what delights you. You have to peel
back layers of awareness so that you can begin to ask what it means to you. You
must work to create your own meaning from an artwork, or a conversation. <span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">-<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"times new roman"">  </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Susanne
K. Langer<span></span></span></p>

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<div id="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-_com_1" class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-msocomtxt"><a name="m_-4080064514402724295__msocom_1"></a><p class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-MsoCommentText">Needs a footnote with credit. Not sure if
it’s from P<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(37,37,37)">hilosophy in a New Key: A Study in the Symbolism of Reason,
Rite, and Art</span></i><span class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(37,37,37)"> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(37,37,37)">(1942),<span class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-apple-converted-space"> o</span>r<i> Feeling and Form: A Theory of Art</i><span class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-apple-converted-space"> </span>(1953), or <i>Problems of Art: Ten
Philosophical Lectures</i>, (1957). There’s a reference copy of the last one in
the downtown library; nothing of hers circulates anymore, and Google Books
doesn’t have enough of her books online to find the quotes.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div id="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-_com_1" class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-msocomtxt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:1.2pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">A better source might be the archives in
Chicago; I bet someone there has it because I’m pretty sure one of her books
was in the briefcase library. Part of this quote is in the intro to <i>The Art of Focused Conversation,</i> but
doesn’t even use her name! Ouch!<span></span></span></p><p class="m_-4080064514402724295gmail-MsoCommentText"><span> Ronnie</span></p>

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