<p dir="ltr">Yes!! Thanks Judi!</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 9, 2016 19:58, "Judi White via OE" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I am not ready for a full blown reflection. Trauma is like that. While it is happening the body is included in the processing. My body response was to fall asleep and wake up a couple hours later, see what was happening, escape into An old tv series, fall asleep, wake up and check who won Then in shock breathe mindfully until sleep blessed me. Upon awaking I wanted grits and eggs instead of oatmeal. Fed cats, exercised and walked and finally accepted the new reality after Hillary's speech. Now the grieving can begin and thus conversation will facilitate healing of PTSD. What next? In due time. Peace. Judi</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 9, 2016 7:46 PM, "Del Morrill via OE" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hugely helpful, Jim. I don’t have a group to use this with, but maybe Justin and I might find it helpful to us as a couple to get out of the shock and this funk and fear mode as a result</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:24.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:#1f497d">Del<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Brush Script MT";color:#1f497d">Change of any sort requires courage. <u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> OE [mailto:<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe-bounces@lists.wedge<wbr>blade.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Wiegel via OE<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> McCabe, Diann A <<a href="mailto:dm14@txstate.edu" target="_blank">dm14@txstate.edu</a>>; John Epps <<a href="mailto:jlepps39@gmail.com" target="_blank">jlepps39@gmail.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] art form conversation - election day "Where and how did your body react?"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57414"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Jo Nelson has shared this several times in different venues. Might be a helpful start in creating the conversation.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57414"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57414"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">DEBRIEFING A TRAUMATIC SITUATION</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57417"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">A Focused Conversation</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57420"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57423"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Situation: A traumatic incident has just happened. The immediate incident is over, but people are shaken and need to talk about what has happened. </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57426"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57429"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Rational Aim: </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57432"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">To talk about their personal experiences of the trauma. </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57435"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">To face reality and begin to deal with it productively.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57438"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57441"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Experiential Aim: </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57444"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">To move from shock to beginning to come to terms with the situation.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57447"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57450"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Opening: This event has shaken all of us. Let¹s take a little time to reflect on what¹s happened, so we can come to terms with it. I¹m going to ask some questions that will help us gradually process what happened. I would like you to let everyone have their own answers ‹ no interrupting, arguing, or judging what anyone says.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57453"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57456"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Objective Questions</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57459"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Imagine you were a video camera recording what you saw happening on that day. What actions, words, phrases, objects, and scenes are recorded on your tape? Let¹s get everything out so we all have a full picture of what happened.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57464"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What has happened since?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57469"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57472"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Reflective Questions</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57475"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What shocked you?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57480"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What was most frightening?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57485"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What made you want to escape?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57490"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">How else did you find yourself reacting?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57495"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Any place you wanted to cheer?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57500"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57503"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Interpretive Questions</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57506"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Why do you think this happened?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57511"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What might have been some other contributing factors?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57516"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What impact does it have on you?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57521"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">How are you different now?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57526"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">How might we be different a year from now?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57531"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What can we learn from this?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57536"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57539"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Decisional Questions</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57542"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What can we do to prevent this from happening again?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57547"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Who else do you need to see or talk with?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57552"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What can we do to help each other now?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57557"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt">Ø</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black;letter-spacing:-1.0pt"> </span><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">What can we do to symbolize how we changed or what we have learned?</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57562"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57565"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Closing</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57568"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">We will undoubtedly continue to reflect on this. If you need help, please be sure to ask for it.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57571"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57574"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Hints</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57577"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Some of these questions are difficult to answer, so if there are few spoken answers, don¹t worry. The very fact of raising these questions and following this flow allows deeper reflection later. It may be helpful to print out the questions for participants to take with them for solitary, small group, or family reflection.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57580"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478716977659_57583"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Adapted from Jo Nelson ICA Associates, Inc., Canada. “I have used a variation on this conversation with the Southern Ontario Facilitators' Network. We found it helpful . . . 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<u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> "McCabe, Diann A via OE" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> John Epps <<a href="mailto:jlepps39@gmail.com" target="_blank">jlepps39@gmail.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:30 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] art form conversation - election day "Where and how did your body react?"</span><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yiv3908730045"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Like taking a deep breath reading this, John. Thank you—and, yes, now what? Grieve/process for a day or two and then . . . Tbd<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Diann<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yiv3908730045yqt93486"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">OE <<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.n<wbr>et</a>> on behalf of John Epps via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>John Epps <<a href="mailto:jlepps39@gmail.com" target="_blank">jlepps39@gmail.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM<br><b>To: </b>Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Oe List ...] art form conversation - election day "Where and how did your body react?"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">I keep a cartoon on my desk depicting a cat with its tail in its mouth. The cat is reading a book entitled "You've Caught Your Tail: Now What?" <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">That's a perfect question for Republicans, whether primarily Trump supporters or Clinton haters.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">It's also a good question for Democrats, whether primarily Clinton supporters or Trump haters. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">There seems to be enough hatred and fear of the Other to go around. As the sensitive and responsive Ones, our job is to "increase the love of God and Neighbor" to quote H.R, Niebuhr. Recalling this is helping me deal with the regrets about yesterday and trying to avoid finding fault and placing blame. The Mystery has struck again! Now what?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">John<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Ken Fisher via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">On Nov 9, 2016, at 1:49 PM, via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">What I noticed in myself was how visceral the feelings were as it became clear that Trump was winning the electoral race. One question might be, "Where and how did your body react?"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Jann<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Jann, David et al,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">I would like to respond to Jann’s proposed question. I’d be interested in any other person’s experience.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Here’s mine.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">When I went to bed some time before midnight, yet knowing that Trump had won, I was in shock, unable to sleep and experiencing great bodily stress. Might I have a heart attack? (I have never had any heart problems.) Part of this was a deep sense of helplessness, being infinitely puny in the face of this new reality of America and the world. To self-soothe, I moved into my current meditative/contemplative practice of, on the one hand listening to whatever words my ego was muttering to get a sense of where I was at in this world; and on the other hand, attentively breathing – ‘we’ on the in-breath and ‘us’ on the out breath evoking the eternality of the other world.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Soon I moved into sleep.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Upon waking, I was aware of being in a cool, vibrantly alive state of being aware that I had been delivered into a completely new self-awareness of my world.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Well I know that my ego and one’s collective ego can produce wonderful illusions!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Calmly, I embrace this new reality symbolized by the Trump presidency. I am committed to finding whole new ways of engaging with this disenfranchised cohort, as I am committed to engaging with the marginalized anywhere.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Here’s a version of the Lord’s Prayer written by Joyce Marshall that I try to read daily.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">O Holy One, we look to you that you may find us and shine your light on our soul.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Fill us with your holy spirit of love and truth.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">May we trust in the absolute goodness of what is and not fight it.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">We ask for your spirit and we open ourselves to receive it this moment.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">Forgive us as we forgive all claims that we have imagined are our due.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">May we renounce our ego and live ever aware of our dependence on you to keep us free.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Ken<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: David Flowers via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>To: oe <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>Sent: Wed, Nov 9, 2016 7:26 am<br>Subject: [Oe List ...] art form conversation - election day<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yiv3908730045m_-8292181538182408887AOLMsgPart_1.2_e7beb7fd-9392-42a0-90e2-2cf52b26d30c"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi everyone,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I teach a Leadership Studies class at a Milwaukee Institute of Art and Design - traditional age students getting their degree in fine arts.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I'm thinking tomorrow's class will be an art form conversation on their experience of Tuesday. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I'd be very interested in this groups wisdom and suggestions for questions and format.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I have introduced them to the ORID method and facilitated conversations is already an established norm.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">What do you think?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Grace and Peace,<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">David Flowers<br><br>"Whatever the problem, community is the answer. 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Margaret Wheatley<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">______________________________ _________________</span><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">OE mailing list</span><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.wedgeblade.net_listinfo.cgi_oe-2Dwedgeblade.net&d=BQMFaQ&c=OrYO-caJHQE1g_AJU3az1awi55It-bjDIQrtRiZ6WBk&r=cw7JHsPxyByS9w-Vmzo7lQ&m=zVWtTc-CLuky8boBkF8kQkKPsn54tb7f10JaNdIO7-M&s=xmZQIHjeVSYCfSm0nkNGP3T-UeUH1ndAoMe-8-OxTx4&e=" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">______________________________ _________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.wedgeblade.net_listinfo.cgi_oe-2Dwedgeblade.net&d=BQMFaQ&c=OrYO-caJHQE1g_AJU3az1awi55It-bjDIQrtRiZ6WBk&r=cw7JHsPxyByS9w-Vmzo7lQ&m=zVWtTc-CLuky8boBkF8kQkKPsn54tb7f10JaNdIO7-M&s=xmZQIHjeVSYCfSm0nkNGP3T-UeUH1ndAoMe-8-OxTx4&e=" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><br>______________________________ _________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.wedgeblade.net_listinfo.cgi_oe-2Dwedgeblade.net&d=BQMFaQ&c=OrYO-caJHQE1g_AJU3az1awi55It-bjDIQrtRiZ6WBk&r=cw7JHsPxyByS9w-Vmzo7lQ&m=zVWtTc-CLuky8boBkF8kQkKPsn54tb7f10JaNdIO7-M&s=xmZQIHjeVSYCfSm0nkNGP3T-UeUH1ndAoMe-8-OxTx4&e=" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/ listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div id="m_-4894224483371803509m_-6662945459838082053yqt41674"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>OE mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/li<wbr>stinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:helveticaneue;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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