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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jo, no need to leave the list. I will leave instead. I no longer feel this is my community as I once did, so it is more appropriate for me to be the one to leave.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan Fertig-Dykes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jo Nelson via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 06, 2016 8:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] more news for Susan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The disrespectful comments from both sides of the political spectrum about people with different views has compelled me to leave this list. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will not participate in negative energy and disrespect.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jo Nelson<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Susan Fertig via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Every time I read one of these condescending “poor misguided Susan” missives, I have to chuckle at the hypocrisy. All of you are guilty of everything of which you each have
accused me. The only difference is that I’m not tied to ANY candidate, and you all have drunk the Hillary koolaid.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">OE
[<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style="color:purple">mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>W. J. via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, November 06, 2016 6:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>>; Colleague Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style="color:purple">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[Oe List ...] more news for Susan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">I've 'enjoyed' Susan's anti-Hillary diatribes, especially her cartoon. Not that I agree with her biases--I actually voted for Hillary (without holding my nose too hard).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">But I'm stunned that so many of my colleagues took the bait she threw at us--and jumped all over her.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Her cartoon, for example, articulates the entrenched "meme" or biased and emotionally charged view of a large segment of voters who have voted or will vote without reference to FBI
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">I predict that this letter won't change Susan's biases at all. She's totally stuck in "their" popular anti-Hillary meme, and nothing you or I or Mr. Comey can say will change her mind.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">So what does this mean for all of us? Can we even relate to people--relatives, "friends", workmates, or (goddess help us) even old "colleagues"--who have bought the same political
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">How can we make any sense of how Susan can be so misguided, given the depth of our common understanding of the way life is?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Or, for that matter, how can we embrace people with whom we have developed personal trust and mutual esteem, once we learn they're "living on a different political planet"?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Surely this is the moment for the 'transestablishment' dynamic. We need to speak to the hidden suffering </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">of those who are angry and fearful and feel disempowered by their loss of economic, political, and cultural status as once-prosperous members of the middle class. And also to the segment
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Finally, it has become obvious that the political process may come to an electoral outcome, but that does not allow for healing or reconciliation between warring political parties,
who will feel obliged to take the political battle to the next level--the halls of Congress.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Acknowledging and honoring the humanness of those we see as "our" political "enemies"--and eliciting their inclusive wisdom and insights into profound humanness--can be challenging
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">BTW, American political cartoons in the 19th century were historically WAY nastier than anything Susan has sent us. But their distorted perspectives made political points and served
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Jo Nelson, CPF, CTF <jnelson@ica-<a href="http://associates.ca">associates.ca</a>><br>
Certified Professional Facilitator and ICA Certified ToP™ Facilitator<br>
ICA Associates, Inc. <br>
401 Richmond Street West, Suite #405, Toronto, Canada. M5V 3A8<br>
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Ph. 1 416-691-2316, x2230 Toll-free 1 877-691-1422 Fax 1 416-691-2491<br>
Website <a href="http://ica-associates.ca">http://ica-associates.ca</a><br>
Cellphone 647 233 6910<br>
Skype “jofacilitator”<br>
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Vendor of Record: Government of Ontario Learning and Training Services #OSS00536903<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Pre-qualified Vendor, Alberta Education Resource List<br>
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<i>“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.<br>
Richard Buckminster Fuller”</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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